I can't believe it. A friend (who is kind of a non-committal Christian) actually tried to use the Ontological argument on me - but only because he regards me as an unswayable atheist.
Anyway he launches into the whole "Imagine the perfect being" thing and then goes onto the "if it existed it would be even more perfect - therefore God (somewhat summarised but I guess you all know the argument).
The conversation then goes as follows:
"You can't"
"Can't what?"
"Imagine the perfect being."
"Why not?"
"It wouldn't fit my definition of the perfect being. We'd end up with one each. That's 7 billion Gods - polytheism gone mad."
"Nonsense - we could establish between us the perfect being."
"OK- lets try it. Imagine your perfect being. Go nuts; all powerful, all knowing; all understanding, all loving whatever you want. I will then ask you one question and you will see the problem."
"Right."
So he sits there for about 30 seconds with his eyes closed and then announces he is ready for my question.
"Sure?"
"Sure!"
"Your perfect being....."
"Yes"
"How big are her breasts?"
Anyway he launches into the whole "Imagine the perfect being" thing and then goes onto the "if it existed it would be even more perfect - therefore God (somewhat summarised but I guess you all know the argument).
The conversation then goes as follows:
"You can't"
"Can't what?"
"Imagine the perfect being."
"Why not?"
"It wouldn't fit my definition of the perfect being. We'd end up with one each. That's 7 billion Gods - polytheism gone mad."
"Nonsense - we could establish between us the perfect being."
"OK- lets try it. Imagine your perfect being. Go nuts; all powerful, all knowing; all understanding, all loving whatever you want. I will then ask you one question and you will see the problem."
"Right."
So he sits there for about 30 seconds with his eyes closed and then announces he is ready for my question.
"Sure?"
"Sure!"
"Your perfect being....."
"Yes"
"How big are her breasts?"
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