RE: How can a god, that apparently loves everyone, allow this kind of thing to happen?
October 22, 2013 at 12:15 pm
(This post was last modified: October 22, 2013 at 12:17 pm by Zazzy.)
(October 22, 2013 at 11:54 am)John V Wrote:Well, then you and I are fundamentally different. If I felt murder was occurring, I wouldn't say that some murders are acceptable, even to prevent others. I'd keep fighting for all murders to end. There is no one small group I'd compromise on.(October 22, 2013 at 11:37 am)Zazzy Wrote: You are willing to compromise on murder?Sure, if it means a large reduction in murder, as this would.
In any case, this is a compromise that wouldn't work. You can't end abortion- all you can do is make sure that the women having them are doing it less safely.
Quote:What I'm saying is that your statement that such suffering of babies might be NECESSARY for some people is flat-out horrible. Yes, I know some people get off on the suffering of others, and that some people when confronted with suffering grow through watching it. But to insinuate that that might be a GOOD REASON to allow suffering is, as Esquilax said, monstrous.Quote:This is a really, really dicky, awful thing to say.Why? Are you claiming that some people can't grow through the suffering of others? Or do you just not like to deal with that fact?
Quote:No, not clear that you don't think it's OK is not equivalent to clear that you think it's OK.But it's clearer than what I thought you thought I said was OK, but less clear than what you thought was OK about what I said. Are we clear?
Quote:Incorrect.So you would also compromise on a small group of women aborting perfectly healthy fetuses if that group was as small as the one we are discussing?
Quote:But that's not what's happening with your compromise, either. You are saying that you would ALLOW the one to die in order to save the rest.Quote:If you could pick one little kid and kill them to save a school full of children, would you do it?It doesn't matter, as that's not the situation. The question applicable to the situation is, "If a school full of children are about to die and you could save all but one of them, would you?"
*Edit- and I'm waiting for you to point out to me where I said that having a baby with a painful early fatal genetic disease is evil.