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you send yourselves to hell
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RE: you send yourselves to hell
(March 13, 2014 at 2:39 am)Jacob(smooth) Wrote:
(March 12, 2014 at 11:42 pm)Cinjin Wrote: So where do you stand on hell then???
Your answer is very cryptic. If you don't believe in hell "in the traditional sense," than what sort of Hell do you believe in? You seem to be saying that you still do believe in hell.
Also you didn't answer my first question:
Do you believe that the non-believers on this site are going to hell (even if it's not the traditional concept of hell)?
Sorry, I'll try to be clearer.
I'm agnostic about hell. I can't rule it out because I don't claim to even begin to understand God. I think the idea of a cave full of lava where imps with pitchforks prod people for being a runner up in a game of cosmic peekaboo is silly. Moses gets to see God, and hear God and see him part an ocean and he gets to go to heaven for believing in God. M'padda of the remote bukbuk tribe of the Amazon never gets to hear about God so goes to hell? No.

Do believe non believers on this site are going to hell? See my above! I have no idea of hell exists, or if it did what the entry criteria would be. Thus I have no opinion on who's going there.

However will say that my concept if God isn't compatible with the idea of a place of eternal suffering for eternity so I don't tend to think that people are going there.

Does that answer your question? I could hypothesis about hell if you'd like but it would be pure abstraction.

Jacob, from reading your posts the past few days I gather that a) you believe the Bible is, if nothing else, an expression of different individuals' subjective experiences relating to forces unseen or perhaps not understood by them. And b) you don't really seem to take the Bible too literally, or seriously, or both--at least on the particular teachings of hell. It doesn't seem like your intellectual integrity allows you to embrace biblical inerrancy or the (literally) hellish idea of everlasting punishment on mere faith...so if you're going to apply some sensibility in these instances, why stop there? I must ask.. What in Christ's name causes you to identify as a Christian? And why?
He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza
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you send yourselves to hell - by Jacob(smooth) - March 11, 2014 at 1:56 pm
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by Bad Wolf - March 11, 2014 at 2:14 pm
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by Tonus - March 12, 2014 at 10:12 am
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by SteelCurtain - March 12, 2014 at 10:16 am
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by truthBtold - March 11, 2014 at 2:15 pm
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by Minimalist - March 11, 2014 at 2:34 pm
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by Chad32 - March 11, 2014 at 2:52 pm
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by Esquilax - March 11, 2014 at 2:54 pm
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by Chad32 - March 11, 2014 at 2:58 pm
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by Doubting Thomas - March 11, 2014 at 3:36 pm
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by FreeTony - March 11, 2014 at 3:48 pm
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by Jovanian Teapot - March 11, 2014 at 3:52 pm
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by TaraJo - March 12, 2014 at 10:14 am
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by Doubting Thomas - March 11, 2014 at 4:09 pm
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by Chad32 - March 11, 2014 at 4:37 pm
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by Angrboda - March 11, 2014 at 6:58 pm
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by *Deidre* - March 12, 2014 at 12:29 am
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by Mudhammam - March 12, 2014 at 1:46 am
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by KichigaiNeko - March 12, 2014 at 3:13 am
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by Chad32 - March 12, 2014 at 10:05 am
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by ronedee - March 12, 2014 at 10:23 am
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by Mister Agenda - March 12, 2014 at 10:49 am
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by *Deidre* - March 12, 2014 at 10:24 am
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by Tonus - March 12, 2014 at 10:25 am
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by ronedee - March 12, 2014 at 10:30 am
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by truthBtold - March 12, 2014 at 10:37 am
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by ronedee - March 12, 2014 at 10:43 am
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by truthBtold - March 12, 2014 at 10:45 am
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by ronedee - March 12, 2014 at 10:53 am
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by truthBtold - March 12, 2014 at 10:55 am
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by ronedee - March 12, 2014 at 11:41 am
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by Tonus - March 12, 2014 at 10:56 am
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by Chad32 - March 12, 2014 at 11:53 am
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by Ben Davis - March 12, 2014 at 10:50 am
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by The Valkyrie - March 12, 2014 at 2:09 pm
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by ronedee - March 12, 2014 at 4:26 pm
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by The Valkyrie - March 12, 2014 at 4:36 pm
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by ronedee - March 12, 2014 at 4:41 pm
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by The Valkyrie - March 12, 2014 at 4:55 pm
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by truthBtold - March 12, 2014 at 5:17 pm
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by The Valkyrie - March 12, 2014 at 5:20 pm
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by Mudhammam - March 12, 2014 at 5:26 pm
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by Mister Agenda - March 14, 2014 at 9:59 am
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by ronedee - March 14, 2014 at 7:22 pm
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by Mudhammam - March 14, 2014 at 7:34 pm
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by truthBtold - March 14, 2014 at 7:37 pm
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by Paraselene - March 15, 2014 at 1:47 pm
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by Esquilax - March 15, 2014 at 1:50 pm
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by shep - March 16, 2014 at 7:23 pm
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by Mister Agenda - March 12, 2014 at 11:22 am
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by Cinjin - March 12, 2014 at 11:46 am
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by Jacob(smooth) - March 12, 2014 at 3:28 pm
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by Cinjin - March 12, 2014 at 11:42 pm
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by Jacob(smooth) - March 13, 2014 at 2:39 am
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by Mudhammam - March 13, 2014 at 7:10 am
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by Bob Kelso - March 12, 2014 at 1:07 pm
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by ronedee - March 12, 2014 at 1:42 pm
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by Bob Kelso - March 12, 2014 at 1:59 pm
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by ronedee - March 12, 2014 at 2:02 pm
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by Bob Kelso - March 12, 2014 at 2:17 pm
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by Chad32 - March 12, 2014 at 1:11 pm
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by Bob Kelso - March 12, 2014 at 1:35 pm
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by Chad32 - March 12, 2014 at 5:05 pm
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by truthBtold - March 12, 2014 at 5:26 pm
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by Chad32 - March 12, 2014 at 5:27 pm
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by Mudhammam - March 12, 2014 at 5:30 pm
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by Chad32 - March 12, 2014 at 5:38 pm
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by Jacob(smooth) - March 13, 2014 at 9:03 am
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by truthBtold - March 13, 2014 at 9:08 am
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by Esquilax - March 13, 2014 at 9:10 am
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by Jacob(smooth) - March 13, 2014 at 9:37 am
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by Mudhammam - March 13, 2014 at 1:36 pm
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by Jacob(smooth) - March 13, 2014 at 2:32 pm
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by Mudhammam - March 13, 2014 at 2:38 pm
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by Jacob(smooth) - March 13, 2014 at 3:25 pm
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by Rayaan - March 13, 2014 at 5:14 pm
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by Jacob(smooth) - March 14, 2014 at 5:56 am
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by Cinjin - March 15, 2014 at 1:39 pm
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by shep - March 13, 2014 at 6:28 pm
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by Mudhammam - March 13, 2014 at 8:31 pm
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by Jacob(smooth) - March 15, 2014 at 1:54 pm
RE: you send yourselves to hell - by The Valkyrie - March 16, 2014 at 7:28 pm

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