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Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant
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RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant
This sort of objection demonstrates a lack of realization that there is NO relevance for the virgin birth in the places where it is lacking mention. Remember, the NT materials were written to people who ALREADY believed the Gospel. By the time the were reading this stuff, they had already accepted all of the basic tenets, and already had all the basic information.

Furthermore, Paul was writing "problem-oriented" letters - so that there was really no need to go out of the way to mention anything that he did not have pertinence for.

The virgin birth was not seen in a christological perspective when Matthew and Luke reported it; hence, there is no reason for it to appear in Paul's letters or elsewhere in the NT. There is not even any reason for it to be in Mark and John (note that in the missionary preaching of Acts, the kerygma begins not with Jesus' birth, but with his baptism by John) - but there is a reason for Matthew and Luke to use it: The former wished to link it to the fulfillment of prophecy (Is. 7:14); the latter showed especial interest in the life of Mary.

The argument that there were pagan stories of Virginal birth and the Virginal birth was not mentioned by Paul, do not prove anything, because what is true Doctrine is not proven false because of what Paul didn't say or what Doctrines may also resemble what was taught by pagans. Even Pagans had some of the truth. THey still do.
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Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by Phatt Matt s - March 23, 2014 at 7:20 am
RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by LostLocke - March 23, 2014 at 8:47 am
RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by Brakeman - March 23, 2014 at 9:02 am
RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by Phatt Matt s - March 23, 2014 at 9:24 am
RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by Phatt Matt s - March 23, 2014 at 9:42 am
RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by professor - March 23, 2014 at 9:35 am
RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by Chas - March 23, 2014 at 8:23 pm
RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by Phatt Matt s - March 23, 2014 at 8:35 pm
RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by professor - March 23, 2014 at 10:27 am
RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by Phatt Matt s - March 23, 2014 at 10:33 am
RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by Minimalist - March 23, 2014 at 12:50 pm
RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by Cinjin - March 23, 2014 at 4:24 pm
RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by KUSA - March 23, 2014 at 1:33 pm
RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by truthBtold - March 23, 2014 at 1:34 pm
RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by Phatt Matt s - March 23, 2014 at 4:14 pm
RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by truthBtold - March 23, 2014 at 4:16 pm
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RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by truthBtold - March 23, 2014 at 4:20 pm
RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by *Deidre* - March 23, 2014 at 4:18 pm
RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by Phatt Matt s - March 23, 2014 at 4:34 pm
RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by truthBtold - March 23, 2014 at 4:44 pm
RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by Ben Davis - March 24, 2014 at 9:18 am
RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by Phatt Matt s - March 23, 2014 at 4:22 pm
RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by *Deidre* - March 23, 2014 at 4:29 pm
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RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by Phatt Matt s - March 23, 2014 at 8:10 pm
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RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by Phatt Matt s - March 23, 2014 at 9:38 pm
RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by Phatt Matt s - March 23, 2014 at 11:06 pm
RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by professor - March 23, 2014 at 9:34 pm
RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by The Valkyrie - March 23, 2014 at 9:45 pm
RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by Minimalist - March 23, 2014 at 9:44 pm
RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by Phatt Matt s - March 23, 2014 at 11:38 pm
RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by Bucky Ball - March 24, 2014 at 12:40 am
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RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by Bucky Ball - March 24, 2014 at 12:57 am
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RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by Phatt Matt s - March 24, 2014 at 8:53 am
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RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by Bucky Ball - March 25, 2014 at 12:01 am
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RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by Chas - March 25, 2014 at 11:17 am
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RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by Bucky Ball - March 25, 2014 at 10:44 am
RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by Aractus - March 26, 2014 at 3:12 am
RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by Bucky Ball - March 26, 2014 at 6:06 am
RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by Phatt Matt s - March 25, 2014 at 12:22 am
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RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by Bucky Ball - March 25, 2014 at 9:44 am
RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by Phatt Matt s - March 25, 2014 at 10:02 am
RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by *Deidre* - March 25, 2014 at 12:42 am
RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by Minimalist - March 25, 2014 at 1:28 am
RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by Phatt Matt s - March 25, 2014 at 1:42 am
RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by Bucky Ball - March 25, 2014 at 3:35 am
RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by *Deidre* - March 25, 2014 at 10:47 am
RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by Phatt Matt s - March 25, 2014 at 10:56 am
RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by Bucky Ball - March 25, 2014 at 11:13 am
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RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by Phatt Matt s - March 25, 2014 at 11:06 am
RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by Silver - March 25, 2014 at 11:14 am
RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by Bucky Ball - March 25, 2014 at 11:20 am
RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by Bucky Ball - March 25, 2014 at 11:17 am
RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by Chas - March 25, 2014 at 11:25 am
RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by Phatt Matt s - March 25, 2014 at 11:18 am
RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by Silver - March 25, 2014 at 11:21 am
RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by Bucky Ball - March 25, 2014 at 11:22 am
RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by Phatt Matt s - March 25, 2014 at 11:27 am
RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by Bucky Ball - March 25, 2014 at 11:37 am
RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by Silver - March 25, 2014 at 11:41 am
RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by Minimalist - March 25, 2014 at 11:59 am
RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by *Deidre* - March 25, 2014 at 12:05 pm
RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by Bucky Ball - March 25, 2014 at 12:05 pm
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RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by Phatt Matt s - March 25, 2014 at 12:12 pm
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RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by Phatt Matt s - March 25, 2014 at 12:10 pm
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RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by Chas - March 26, 2014 at 7:58 am
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RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by Bucky Ball - March 25, 2014 at 5:21 pm
RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by Aractus - March 26, 2014 at 6:15 am
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RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by Bucky Ball - March 27, 2014 at 12:02 am
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RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by Phatt Matt s - March 26, 2014 at 8:05 pm
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RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by Minimalist - March 26, 2014 at 8:18 pm
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RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by Minimalist - March 27, 2014 at 11:48 am
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RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by Phatt Matt s - March 27, 2014 at 7:08 am
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RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by Silver - March 27, 2014 at 10:58 am
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RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by Phatt Matt s - March 27, 2014 at 11:22 am
RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by *Deidre* - March 27, 2014 at 10:04 pm
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RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by Phatt Matt s - March 27, 2014 at 11:33 am
RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by *Deidre* - March 27, 2014 at 10:15 pm
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RE: Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant - by Phatt Matt s - March 27, 2014 at 10:41 pm

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