Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant

[Bucky Ball]

Typical yank, can't even get British idioms right. I don't need to provide references for the settled facts among all scholars, that's ridiculous. It'd be like saying I need to provide modern references for speed of light or other such nonsense. It is in fact you who need to provide sources if you're going to challenge the basic settled facts.

Ah yes. Quite "ridiculous. Hey old man. You post is a huge pile of crap. Umm yes idiot. You DO have to provide references. YOU claimed "most scholars this", and "most scholars that". YOU must provide the sources for your crap. Saying "no it isn't" and "yes it is" is worth NOTHING. What your (incompetent) OPINION is about "what is settled" or not, is worthless. Your opinions are worthless. Ehrman's and Carrier's (and many others) views are outside the mainstream. Doesn't make them either right or wrong. You utterly FAIL with respect to any DETAILS. Are you always making general assertions with NO REFERENCES ? You are totally incompetent to say ANYTHING about either the NT or OT, BTW.

I provided a number of reasons why one might think Jebus did not exist, and why the gospels are totally inaccurate, and contradictory. Did you address even ONE ? No. Fail. Josephus' book was an attempt to prove Vespasian was the messiah. ARe you SURE you want to reference that ? The quote in Chapter 18 is a KNOWN forgery and the one in 20 is equivocal. Clearly you are not up to speed here, old man. The books of Paul talk about a Jebus HE NEVER MET. He said he "got his gospel from no man" (a hallucination). I see you are utterly non-conversant with the details of the debate. You FAILED to provide ONE reference for anything that can be "externally confirmed". Are you always this utterly LAME ? Repeating over and over something is "accurate" doesn't make it so. There are direct contradictions in the NT. They can't BOTH be true. You are delusional, totally.

"Furthermore as you would well know, all the documents we have from that period are copies, no autograph originals exist anymore, so for you to find someone that wrote down these events they had to be copied and preserved for centuries to come or else you have virtually no chance of finding them. The reason that the Gospels and the Gnostic texts and Paul's letters and the rest of the NT and Josephus's tests and other writings have survived is because many copies were made of them. Furthermore many ancient libraries were burned or destroyed along with their contents - Library of Alexandria, the Jewish Temple, etc. The main material used at the time, papyrus, did not generally last very long. There are 5,800 ancient NT manuscripts in Greek and less than 130 are papyri that survived."

So what ? Your point is ? Your deity is so fucking weak, she can't even keep some texts around to refer to ?

"So what? Even if you were an OT scholar, that doesn't make you an NT scholar."

So what ? YOU said I was not qualified to translate the mistranslation of Isaiah. You lied. You were wrong. That's what. I already explained the mistranslation. Every Freshman Bible student is taught about the mistranslation. Obviously you have NO eduction in the Babble.

"You're clutching at straws." is not an argument.

I see you have no proofs of anything, and can prove nothing.
Everything in the Bible is not "recorded" It's "purposely placed" far a reason, by believers with an agenda.

STOP spouting crap about "most critical scholars". We all know what that REALLY means is "scholars that agree with ME". You STILL have provided NO NAMES, and NO references. You are incompetent. What Acts claimed went on in the Council of Jerusalem is irrelevant. You addressed NONE of the points. I know all about the Jesus Seminar. Some were Biblical scholars. Some were not. Crossan does not buy the resurrection. BB Scott does not buy the resurrection. I could care less. A radical re-evaluation is not a bad thing. You've got nothing, you patronizing pompous ass. You can't even name one scholar, or reference ONE of your ASS-ertions. Go away, and troll a Christian forum with your presuppositions.