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Who killed more people Atheists or Christians?
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RE: Who killed more people Atheists or Christians?
Well lets see. During the first world war there were 16 million deaths. Using the rediculous accounting that lets us describe the actions of each state involved as merely a representation of its leader or leadership cabinet thats 16 million in that war all in the christian column.

In the second world war it gets a LOT murkier. All Casualties CAUSED by Americans, Brits, Austrialians, Canadians, French, Italians, Germans, Austrians, Serbs, Romanians, Poles and Yugoslavs get counted in the Christian Column. While all Russian casualties get counted as Athiest. Japanese inflicted casualties don't count as anything. A conservative estimate for deaths in WW2 is 50 million. Again, going conservative the number of German deaths is 9 million. Considering that the military casualties were only HALF that number AND That most of the civilian casualties were the result of the WESTERN allied bombing campaign that means that realistically it ought to be metered out at 60/40 christian/non christian. However, for generosties sake I will say that 5 million of the 7 million where caused by athiests (Russian communists). So of 50 million DEAD 1/10th were CAUSED by athiests.
These numbers typically include holocuast dead.

Our current tally is Christians 61 million, Athiests 5 million.

The Korean war is another cluster. North Koreans are NOT athiests. They have a form of forced worship of their leadership. However, the NATO powers that took part WHERE Christian. The number of deaths of N. Koreans is put at about 1 million. The total number of NATO deaths is put at about 250K.

Vietnam is more straight forward using his utterly inane counting method you have imposed. There were 300K Americans killed. There were approximately 2 MILLION vietnamese BY Christian/American forces.

I could keep going on and on like this and showing that the number of Christian inflicted deaths during fighting during the cold war vastly outnumbered the number of deaths inflicted by communists but its irrelevant.

We could then add in things like homocide rates. Nearly half a million people are killed every year by homicide. The Chineese actually have a very low homicide rate, and countries that are having a religeous resurgence like Russia now have sky high murder rates. A reasonable breakdown for he past 100 years would be 50 million deaths broken down as 10 million Athiest, 25 million Christian, 15 all other religions.

The 100 million number that the OP likes to point to is a HIGH END estimate of certian communist regimes. Further, to get it it has to include people who were killed in work camps and as a result of displacement.

A fair comparison, then, would be to include every single native american death from 1900 until the reforms of the reseveration reforms of the 1970s, every single civil rights death in the US as well as every single lynching or death in the 20th century united states of an african american person until the signing of civil rights legislation, very single incident like ruby ridge, wako, Every single person who died will in a japanese internment camp, every single Indian who died during the india's struggle for indepedance, every single aboriginal death in the 20th century, every single death of an a non-white african in South Africa until the end of apartide, Every death cuased by the peronistas and similar south american facist hit squads, and finally all the deaths cuased by the European powers as they struggled to retain their African colonies. Including all of this things would generate a number of well over 100 million people as well.

Again, using the counting method were only the religion of the head of state of the government that carried out or allowed for the slaughter to take place ALL of these things get laid on the Christian doorstep. Its a huge stack of dead bodies that they have conveniently forgot in their effort to say communism = atheism and communists killed a bunch of people.

Seriously, a reasonable estimate is that 1/3 of the world is Christian. 1/6th of the world is "non-religeous" which lumps athieism, agnosticism, and other kinds of non-formalized religeous belief togther. These portions mean that anything "athiests" did Christians did in larger numbers. Its not hard to figure out.

Maybe a question that looks at how many Christians killed others because they either

a) believed that they needed to kill others for a specifcally christian reason
b) those others were not christian and they believed that should kill kill non christians

compared to Atheists who killed because the victim was religeous OR because they felt that as an atheist they could kill without consequence.

Really, in the end even the "communists killed 100 million people" is going to be swallowed up by all the stupid crap that christians have done that killed people.
Companions the creator seeks, not corpses, not herds and believers. Fellow creators the creator seeks -- those who write new values on new tablets. Companions the creator seeks, and fellow harvesters; for everything about him is ripe for the harvest. - F. Nietzche
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RE: Who killed more people Atheists or Christians? - by Really? - April 8, 2014 at 10:29 pm

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