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Time and the Speed of Light
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RE: Time and the Speed of Light
(April 25, 2014 at 7:50 pm)KUSA Wrote: Does anyone actually know what a photon or time is? That may sound like a stupid question but I can't seem to get a satisfying answer looking it up.

Hard to say. Ontology is, as ancient thinkers repeatedly discovered, utterly mysterious. Our fundamental concepts like time and space are notions which just break down at the level of language. It's sort of like a mathematician trying to explain more complex parts of number theory through natural language alone. At some point, we just conclude we need a better way of talking about certain things without the bother (at least in strictly science) of discerning what, if anything is "actually" the case, what things really are in themselves. In the case of mathematics and quantum mechanics, it's often good recourse to follow the advice of "Just do the math." Of course, trying to "really" understand things could have benefit, but it is by no means the sole (or most efficient) path.

...Now that I've likely bored you, a partial answer is that time can be conceptualized as really being the same as space, in that the universe tends to be thought of as an unbounded 4-dimensional "block" of spacetime. There is no "present" moment under this B-theory of time, events are simply earlier than or later than another.


(April 25, 2014 at 9:55 pm)KUSA Wrote: Time, gravity, photons, magnetism, dark matter, dark energy, ect. We haven't got a clue what they are only the effects they have on things.

Imagine what things will be like when someone figures this shit out.

Well, saying we haven't got ANY clue about ANY of those things might be pushing it a little. Though, I'm not convinced that things will necessarily be radically different if we ever do "really" understand those things. We humans have a nasty habit of normalizing to our conditions and resurrecting (or worsening) problems we'd hope to have vanquished.

/occasional pessimist
"The reason things will never get better is because people keep electing these rich cocksuckers who don't give a shit about you."
-George Carlin
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Time and the Speed of Light - by Mudhammam - April 24, 2014 at 11:32 pm
RE: Time and the Speed of Light - by pocaracas - April 25, 2014 at 4:01 am
RE: Time and the Speed of Light - by Mudhammam - April 25, 2014 at 1:49 pm
RE: Time and the Speed of Light - by Heywood - April 25, 2014 at 2:10 pm
RE: Time and the Speed of Light - by Mudhammam - April 25, 2014 at 2:13 pm
RE: Time and the Speed of Light - by Heywood - April 25, 2014 at 2:25 pm
RE: Time and the Speed of Light - by Anomalocaris - April 25, 2014 at 2:42 pm
RE: Time and the Speed of Light - by Mudhammam - April 25, 2014 at 4:24 pm
RE: Time and the Speed of Light - by Jackalope - April 25, 2014 at 5:06 pm
RE: Time and the Speed of Light - by Mudhammam - April 25, 2014 at 6:07 pm
RE: Time and the Speed of Light - by Heywood - April 25, 2014 at 6:23 pm
RE: Time and the Speed of Light - by Anomalocaris - April 25, 2014 at 6:28 pm
RE: Time and the Speed of Light - by Heywood - April 25, 2014 at 6:46 pm
RE: Time and the Speed of Light - by vorlon13 - April 25, 2014 at 5:31 pm
RE: Time and the Speed of Light - by pocaracas - April 25, 2014 at 6:39 pm
RE: Time and the Speed of Light - by Jackalope - April 25, 2014 at 6:44 pm
RE: Time and the Speed of Light - by Mudhammam - April 25, 2014 at 6:45 pm
RE: Time and the Speed of Light - by Anomalocaris - April 25, 2014 at 6:51 pm
RE: Time and the Speed of Light - by Mudhammam - April 25, 2014 at 6:56 pm
RE: Time and the Speed of Light - by Anomalocaris - April 25, 2014 at 7:44 pm
RE: Time and the Speed of Light - by Mudhammam - April 26, 2014 at 9:21 pm
RE: Time and the Speed of Light - by KUSA - April 25, 2014 at 7:50 pm
RE: Time and the Speed of Light - by archangle - April 25, 2014 at 8:05 pm
RE: Time and the Speed of Light - by archangle - April 25, 2014 at 8:01 pm
RE: Time and the Speed of Light - by Anomalocaris - April 25, 2014 at 8:03 pm
RE: Time and the Speed of Light - by KUSA - April 25, 2014 at 9:55 pm
RE: Time and the Speed of Light - by MindForgedManacle - April 27, 2014 at 12:00 am
Re: RE: Time and the Speed of Light - by KUSA - April 27, 2014 at 1:45 am
RE: Time and the Speed of Light - by Mudhammam - April 27, 2014 at 10:45 am
RE: Time and the Speed of Light - by MindForgedManacle - April 27, 2014 at 11:57 pm
RE: Time and the Speed of Light - by Anomalocaris - April 27, 2014 at 2:19 am
RE: Time and the Speed of Light - by psychoslice - April 27, 2014 at 3:17 am
RE: Time and the Speed of Light - by Wyrd of Gawd - April 28, 2014 at 3:11 am
RE: Time and the Speed of Light - by Silver - April 28, 2014 at 3:12 am
Re: RE: Time and the Speed of Light - by KUSA - April 28, 2014 at 7:22 am
RE: Time and the Speed of Light - by Anomalocaris - April 28, 2014 at 11:31 am
RE: Time and the Speed of Light - by FreeTony - April 28, 2014 at 7:55 am
Re: RE: Time and the Speed of Light - by KUSA - April 28, 2014 at 11:46 am
RE: Time and the Speed of Light - by Anomalocaris - April 28, 2014 at 12:06 pm
RE: Time and the Speed of Light - by Mudhammam - April 30, 2014 at 9:33 am
RE: Time and the Speed of Light - by little_monkey - April 30, 2014 at 11:06 am
RE: Time and the Speed of Light - by MindForgedManacle - April 28, 2014 at 11:49 am
RE: Time and the Speed of Light - by ManMachine - April 28, 2014 at 12:03 pm
RE: Time and the Speed of Light - by pocaracas - April 28, 2014 at 1:33 pm

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