(June 4, 2014 at 12:44 pm)alpha male Wrote:(June 4, 2014 at 11:46 am)Chad32 Wrote: Well obviously she was wrong. Like I said, nothing he said was wrong. I don't know how sure he was that Yahweh would punish them for being enlightened, but knowledge is not a bad thing. Or if you think it's a sex metaphor, natural processes are not a bad thing.Key word is obviously. You're not thinking it through and are missing the cunning and subtlety of the deceit. Satan's temptation gave them a choice:
- disobey God (i.e. do evil), gain knowledge of good and evil, get death
- obey God (do good), gain knowledge of good and evil, no death
If one can know good by doing evil - and that was Satan's claim - then logically one can also no evil by doing good. So, if they had resisted temptation, they would have gained the same knowledge, but without punishment.
How would they gain understanding of good end evil? Were we reading the same story? He specifically said this is the tree of knowledge of good and evil, and I don't want you eating of it. Then after they obtained it, he kicked them out. Where is there indication that he wants people to be enlightened, as opposed to completely obedient to his every whim? When has Yahweh ever wanted his humans to be independent beings, and not just worshipful sheep?
Obey god, remain ignorant and obedient, get eternal servitude.
Poe's Law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."
10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/
Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50
A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html
10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/
Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50
A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html