RE: Stop calling atheists 'fundamentalists'
July 23, 2014 at 6:20 pm
(This post was last modified: July 23, 2014 at 6:22 pm by Dystopia.)
(July 23, 2014 at 6:11 pm)Zidneya Wrote:(July 23, 2014 at 4:59 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Heh, I don't believe Blackout is a North American. Calling atheists fundamentalists is a trope that's all over the world that theists use when they want to throw tu quoque's around.Not in my country. This is the first time I've heard the atheist are fundamentalists. And I just assumed he was an American since most members around here are. And I also assumed he was referring about a real life experience I didn't knew he was saying this in part because a video that he saw on the web.
(July 23, 2014 at 4:59 pm)Blackout Wrote: Why do people assume everybody is an american except south americans? I'm european. I just posted the thread because I hear theists on real life and on the internet calling atheists 'fundamentalists', and it annoys me very much.I just thought of that since most members around here are Americans . And that whole American except south americans I don't get it because here in my country we call people by it's country we barely use the American term when we mention someone nationality.
I've witnesses people in real life call atheists 'fundamentalists', comparing them with religious ones. They call this to people like Dawkins and Hitchens
(July 23, 2014 at 6:10 pm)Rabb Allah Wrote:(July 23, 2014 at 6:02 pm)Blackout Wrote: Well atheists and theists are opposites regarding the same proposition. But hey I'll correct the said principle again, atheism may not be a lack of belief in gods, it can be the belief that no gods exist. I am an agnostic atheist generally, but I am a gnostic atheist to religions.
Atheism cannot be the belief in no gods becase you are using a positive to support a negative. It is like saying "I believe on the lack of belief that no gods exist". This is applying Occam's Razor to semantics. Let's call it Occam's Paper Cutter
You have got to be kidding. There is agnostic atheism, merely a lack of believe in gods, and gnostic atheism, the belief that no gods exist. In other words, if I'm a gnostic atheist I will make a positive claim that no gods exist. It's different from me merely stating I do not believe or lack belief in gods. Gnostic atheism means an individual knows no gods exist, agnostic atheism means the person does not believe but does not claim to know that gods exist or not, they just think it's unlikely
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