RE: 10 Questions Every Christian Needs To Answer.
August 6, 2014 at 2:45 pm
(This post was last modified: August 6, 2014 at 2:50 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(August 6, 2014 at 10:42 am)orangebox21 Wrote: You're not maintaining logical consistency. If God created the properties of light, water, and the water cycle, then He created the rainbow.In a lazy way, sure - but what we know about rainbows is that god didn't -need- to create them. Any way those conditions are met will yield a rainbow. I say waffles did it, you say god did it, but regardless, there will be rainbows so long as the properties of light and water are thus and thus.
Quote:Of course if you reject God, then yes a rainbow is a naturally occurring thing as you have defined it. However the context of our conversation presupposes that God is the creator.You presuppose such a thing, I do not, nor does any conversation I ever enter into with anyone about any purported activities of any god. God could have happened upon this place, walked into a shitstorm of a flood that he didn't create and then pointed to a rainbow he had no hand in as a sign that he would not do what he had never done. Noah would have been none the wiser. All that such a conversation allows is the contents of the narrative specifically - I don't have to allow your entire holy book everytime I want to muse upon the absurdity of any given claim or story. Neither do you. It baffles the mind as to how you could approach these stories critically if you think that to do so we must presuppose a mountain of sidelines. Maybe, if you want to talk about presuppositionalism, take a note from presuppositionalists. The truth of god is ps, but not the contents of the revelation. This allows the bible to "get it wrong" without, ultimately, "being wrong".
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