RE: Brown and the word "robbery".....
August 22, 2014 at 8:11 pm
(This post was last modified: August 22, 2014 at 8:20 pm by Brakeman.)
(August 22, 2014 at 2:51 pm)Brian37 Wrote:(August 20, 2014 at 10:30 pm)Brakeman Wrote: And the black witness in the video background who didn't know he was being recorded.
oopsie.. But I guess you'd call him an "uncle Tom" wouldn't you?..
Huh?
Who? You will not find one witness outside the cop who said Brown turned around and rushed him. All of them said the officer chased him, fired while his back was turned, and continued to fire after he turned around trying to give up.
This cop got pissed off because they didn't do what he wanted immediately. Cops are trained to fear the worst, and trained to dominate. Whatever happened at the car did not mean the cop had the right to shoot him with his back to the cop or shoot him when he was trying to give up.
You're stubbornly wrong. The candid witness on the youtube video did in fact describe Michael brown rushing the cop with his gun already drawn.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...ilson.html
Quote:The alleged witness tells the man that Brown apparently had a confrontation with Wilson near to or in his vehicle and ran away.
'Then the next thing I know he doubled back towards him cus (sic) the police had his gun drawn already on him,' according to blog, Conservative Tree House.
The witness then contradicts the now crucial narrative of the how the tragic events unfolded last Saturday.
Instead of Brown being fired on while his hands were raised in surrender, the witness claims that Brown was moving towards the officer when he was shot.
While this version of events does not match most of the eyewitness accounts, it does seem to tally up in a small part with the account of what occurred given by a friend of Wilson.
When are you going to admit you were wrong?
(August 22, 2014 at 4:14 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:(August 16, 2014 at 7:35 pm)Brakeman Wrote: You say that black dropout rates are caused by poverty, but if poverty is caused by high black dropout rates, then it is a circular argument.
For the circular system to exist, a third force must be in place, why are so many blacks poor and dropping out of school?
No, it's a vicious cycle, which is entirely different from begging the question. And when multiple variables are present in a dynamic, it sometimes happens that a pair of them become mutually reinforcing, minimizing or obviating the original impetus into the new status quo.
The idea that a complex social phenomenon could have one cause is overly simplistic and for that reason, likely not very useful. Variables in any equation interact.
Good grief! I was referring to additional causes, a "third" cause needed to exist, doesn't imply that there isn't a fourth or a fifth. Instead of trying to find philosophical faults, how about if you actually try to answer the question posed, "What are the causes of modern black poverty? What are the additional causes beyond the circular "high dropout rates - poverty?"
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