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Four arguments against the existence of God
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RE: Four arguments against the existence of God
(September 23, 2014 at 7:12 pm)Esquilax Wrote: ...the unmoved mover has never been demonstrated to exist, and thus lacks any form of justification,...
Summa Theologica, First Part, Question 2, Article 3 demonstrates the necessity of an unmoved mover, as part of the "1st way."

(September 23, 2014 at 7:12 pm)Esquilax Wrote: ... it in itself could not ever show that belief in any form of god, generic or otherwise, to be rational, because it doesn't speak to any form of god.
The last sentence of Article 3 states, "And this everyone understands to be God." Apparently you do not include yourself as part of that group.
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Four arguments against the existence of God - by Mudhammam - September 20, 2014 at 11:58 pm
RE: Four arguments against the existence of God - by Simon Moon - September 22, 2014 at 8:18 pm
RE: Four arguments against the existence of God - by Crossless1 - September 22, 2014 at 8:22 pm
RE: Four arguments against the existence of God - by Esquilax - September 22, 2014 at 10:37 pm
RE: Four arguments against the existence of God - by Dolorian - September 21, 2014 at 12:18 am
RE: Four arguments against the existence of God - by Mudhammam - September 21, 2014 at 12:21 am
RE: Four arguments against the existence of God - by Mudhammam - September 21, 2014 at 1:15 am
RE: Four arguments against the existence of God - by Zen Badger - September 21, 2014 at 1:32 am
RE: Four arguments against the existence of God - by Mudhammam - September 21, 2014 at 2:11 am
RE: Four arguments against the existence of God - by Ryantology - September 21, 2014 at 2:43 am
RE: Four arguments against the existence of God - by Zen Badger - September 21, 2014 at 2:01 am
RE: Four arguments against the existence of God - by Dolorian - September 21, 2014 at 2:17 am
RE: Four arguments against the existence of God - by RobbyPants - September 22, 2014 at 2:44 pm
RE: Four arguments against the existence of God - by Tonus - September 23, 2014 at 3:58 pm
RE: Four arguments against the existence of God - by Aoi Magi - September 22, 2014 at 3:28 pm
RE: Four arguments against the existence of God - by Mudhammam - September 22, 2014 at 4:24 pm
RE: Four arguments against the existence of God - by Esquilax - September 22, 2014 at 7:49 pm
RE: Four arguments against the existence of God - by Crossless1 - September 22, 2014 at 8:06 pm
RE: Four arguments against the existence of God - by Simon Moon - September 22, 2014 at 10:32 pm
RE: Four arguments against the existence of God - by Esquilax - September 22, 2014 at 10:40 pm
RE: Four arguments against the existence of God - by Mudhammam - September 22, 2014 at 11:07 pm
RE: Four arguments against the existence of God - by Mudhammam - September 23, 2014 at 9:40 am
RE: Four arguments against the existence of God - by Esquilax - September 23, 2014 at 10:01 am
RE: Four arguments against the existence of God - by Esquilax - September 23, 2014 at 7:12 pm
RE: Four arguments against the existence of God - by Neo-Scholastic - September 23, 2014 at 7:30 pm
RE: Four arguments against the existence of God - by Simon Moon - September 23, 2014 at 8:23 pm
RE: Four arguments against the existence of God - by Esquilax - September 23, 2014 at 9:05 pm
RE: Four arguments against the existence of God - by Simon Moon - September 23, 2014 at 11:53 pm
RE: Four arguments against the existence of God - by Ryantology - September 22, 2014 at 8:08 pm
RE: Four arguments against the existence of God - by RobbyPants - September 23, 2014 at 10:20 am
RE: Four arguments against the existence of God - by KUSA - September 22, 2014 at 4:34 pm
RE: Four arguments against the existence of God - by Cato - September 22, 2014 at 4:36 pm
RE: Four arguments against the existence of God - by Aoi Magi - September 22, 2014 at 4:38 pm
RE: Four arguments against the existence of God - by Minimalist - September 22, 2014 at 8:50 pm
RE: Four arguments against the existence of God - by Crossless1 - September 22, 2014 at 9:02 pm
RE: Four arguments against the existence of God - by Mudhammam - September 23, 2014 at 3:05 pm
RE: Four arguments against the existence of God - by Mudhammam - September 23, 2014 at 10:33 pm
RE: Four arguments against the existence of God - by genkaus - September 24, 2014 at 4:18 am
RE: Four arguments against the existence of God - by RobbyPants - September 24, 2014 at 10:32 am
RE: Four arguments against the existence of God - by Minimalist - September 23, 2014 at 3:13 pm
RE: Four arguments against the existence of God - by Mudhammam - September 24, 2014 at 1:18 pm
RE: Four arguments against the existence of God - by Simon Moon - September 24, 2014 at 7:33 pm

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