Four arguments against the existence of God

[Mister Agenda]

....because "unmoved mover" doesn't get you to "god." It doesn't even get you to "being," ...

Fascinating how easy it is to dismiss something you do not understand.

Sigh. That which can be asserted without evidence....

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I guess turnabout is fair play. But it is a fact that many opponents of the "unmoved mover" think that it is only about efficient cause, as opposed to that One universal principle that does not change despite the changes within and among the plurality of things. This, as opposed to the case of Esquilax that its utility depends on finding some thing among other things, like the Great Pumpkin. Instead what it does do which is confirm the One. From that starting point, one can proceed.

In other words, take all that as axiomatic? It doesn't seem very parsimonious now, does it?


On the matter of all motion requiring other motion to initiate it, leading to an infinite regression sans an initial 'unmoved mover', I point you to photons. By their nature, photons are incapable of not moving if they are free to do so, and they must move at the speed of light. Virtual photons come into existence constantly (without requiring a cause) and are important in the physics of many processes.