(December 10, 2014 at 7:26 pm)Chad32 Wrote:(December 10, 2014 at 6:55 pm)Godschild Wrote:
No it's not violating their right to free speech. When someone says happy holidays, it includes christmas as much as every other winter solstice holiday. You can still pray in schools, because prayer to Yahweh doesn't need to be spoken.
It's most certainly a violation, to sensor any word according to the courts is illegal and that's exactly what they were doing. Notice I said were doing, they change their mind when Christians stood up to them.
If we're taxed then prayer will become public, you still want it to be private, unspoken. We openly pay taxes then we openly prayer, out loud and teacher lead if they so desire.
Quote:I don't want it involved in government. That's supposed to be why it's tax free. Separation of church and state.
Then why don't you drop the argument, we don't pay and we'll not be able to get involved.
Quote: However it has somehow gotten so involved with state matters, I don't see why it shouldn't be taxed. So it might not be able to give as much to charity, and the government could give more if it was run correctly.
How are we involved in government, other than to express our opinion just as any other tax paying citizens get to do. You really think the government is going to give up some of it's play pretty privileges to help those the church helps.
Quote:So you might not have a dozen or more churches in a small town. so what?
I don't even live in a town and can drive to a dozen small churches in 20 minutes. A big city isn't far away, and I would bet there are nearly 100 small churches.
[/quote]We don't need the ten commandments on our courthouses. We only respect two or three anyway. The first few are unconstitutional. We have child protective services to protect against fathers and mothers who don't deserve to be honored. Coveting, i.e. thought crime, can't be made illegal.
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Doesn't matter if you think we do or don't need them, they will be there if we're taxed. No they are not, that's just ridiculous.
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God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.