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Chad32 · December 10, 2014 at 9:04 pm

It's a small wonder why some places ban religion altogether.

~~Heywood~~ · December 10, 2014 at 9:23 pm

(December 10, 2014 at 6:04 pm)Jenny A Wrote:
(December 10, 2014 at 5:59 pm)Godschild Wrote: We can't tax the Vatican, it's recognized by the world as a sovereign state, as you said.
Like I said earlier tax the church and then watch us gain access to schools and courts and all other government that we see fit to. You can't have your cake and it it too.

GC

I don't see that you'd do anything you don't do already. And that's the point. At least we'd tax the dollars once before the headed to the
Vatican.

In my opinion nobody should get a deduction for charitable giving. Be it to Doctors Without Boarders or the LDS.

The tax code should be simple. You earn this much, you pay this much in tax.

**Minimalist** · (This post was last modified: December 10, 2014 at 9:40 pm by Minimalist.)

You mean like it was when it started, Woodie?

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I agree. Too much social engineering and bullshit thrown into the code.

**Jenny A** · (This post was last modified: December 10, 2014 at 10:07 pm by Jenny A.)

(December 10, 2014 at 9:23 pm)Heywood Wrote:
(December 10, 2014 at 6:04 pm)Jenny A Wrote: I don't see that you'd do anything you don't do already. And that's the point. At least we'd tax the dollars once before the headed to the
Vatican.

In my opinion nobody should get a deduction for charitable giving. Be it to Doctors Without Boarders or the LDS.

The tax code should be simple. You earn this much, you pay this much in tax.

I agree in particular for wage earners. I don't think social engineering via deduction is a good idea still less very "special" tax deductions meant to fit a single lobbying tax payer. However, having spent more time than I care to admit pouring over the tax code, I'm here to tell you that much of the complexity is no more than a feeble attempt to keep up with human ingenuity at disguising income and inflating expenses. Corporate business forms aid the ability to disguise income. Calculating how much money a business makes is never going to be easy or simple, unless the owner is very simple and wants very much to pay exactly as much as they owe. Unfortunately few tax payers fit that description.

**Minimalist** · December 10, 2014 at 10:47 pm

Quote:I agree in particular for wage earners.

Over 40% of the population qualifies to file one of the short forms 1040A or 1040EZ. I imagine that number will grow as the middle class vanishes.

**Brakeman** · December 10, 2014 at 11:15 pm

A deduction from one man's taxes is a rise in the others'.
Anything that does not benefit the common good should not be deductible. IMO

Therefore churches should be taxed and taxed heavily with a "sin" tax, like cigarettes.

dyresand · December 10, 2014 at 11:19 pm

(December 10, 2014 at 9:04 pm)Chad32 Wrote: It's a small wonder why some places ban religion altogether.

not really but its good thing to do and a place to go where you want to be free of religiosity.

Godscreated · (This post was last modified: December 11, 2014 at 12:19 am by Godscreated.)

Godscreated · December 11, 2014 at 12:57 am

**Minimalist** · December 11, 2014 at 1:17 am

Quote:they will be there if we're taxed.

I don't think you quite grasp the impact of Sec. 501 c 3, G-C. Revocation of that status, and it should be revoked because of the political posturing that preachers do, would mean that donations to the church would not be deductible for the donor.

In such a case I would expect the donation pool to dry up faster than a puddle in the Sahara at noon.

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