I was lost but now Im found

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Hi, welcome. I won't be hostile towards you unless you give me a reason to. I will ridicule your religion though, because it is ridiculous, but that's not personal. I do it to all religions.

Evolution is fact, it is not a hoax. Of course religion hates evolution and has tried it's best to discredit it with propaganda. But there's no debate, it's been proven time and again. If you want to disagree with any validity, you'll need to first study it in depth. It's too complex to just dismiss with a wave if the hand.

I know plenty about the bible, including objective facts and it's reliability. Which is next to nil. I'm happy to explain why.

I'm happy to discuss religion, but if you pre suppose the bible is true and God exists, there's nothing to discuss except why you think it's justified to pre suppose those things.

We can all be pretty certain you were indoctrinated as a child, and that is the real reason you believe these things without question. It was forced into your head when you were too young to evaluate it properly, which amounts to child abuse. Now it's so ingrained you can't distinguish it from actual reality. Apologies if this was not the case.

Again this isn't a personal attack, it's a story we've seen a million times. I feel very sorry that it was done to you as it was done to so many others. I don't know if you'll ever be able to break that programming and critically examine your beliefs, but if you have any interest in honest debate then there's some hope. Until then, conversation just revolves around making up justifications for an already held belief and goes no where.

Anyhow, welcome and I hope you find something of value here