(December 11, 2014 at 5:15 am)robvalue Wrote: So Christ raised himself from the dead? While he was dead? That's impressive."problem is, what is being dead?" ,
I looked stuff up and saw that there is no legal definition of what it means to be dead, in England at least. The Is it:
(a) Beyond the point at which the person can ever come back to life
(b) An arbitrary set of guidelines
problem is, what is being dead?
Clearly (a) is not being used, because people are evaluated as dead temporarily then brought round by CLEAR! And people come back to life sometimes when pronounced dead.
Whichever definition you use, human judgement is being employed. And it can be wrong. Say it is wrong once in every million times someone is pronounced dead, I think that's a reasonable estimate? Then you'd fully expect some people to "come back to life". It would be strange if they didn't, frankly. That would make the doctors infallible.
NDE = bollocks, brain under extreme stress creating hallucinations which inevitably involve what it is familiar such as jesus and angels and crap and somehow no muslim stuff
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it means clinically dead. you are confused by the obvious.
Atheist Credo: A universe by chance that also just happened to admit the observer by chance.