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If faith works how every religion says it works......

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RE: If faith works how every religion says it works......

August 10, 2010 at 11:50 pm (This post was last modified: August 11, 2010 at 12:00 am by RAD.)

(August 10, 2010 at 2:00 pm)Thor Wrote: 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

Some revival leaders have led far more people to Jesus than Jesus did, millions more, which of course is the primary purpose of God. Miracles are secondary and really only a sign to help others believe, although Jesus did say some won't believe "even though one rise form the dead", like yourself probably. You can claim he meant only miracles, but then you have no proof of that.

Quote:14:13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. (14:13-14)

1.He's speaking to the disciples, not somebody who is testing him like the Pharisees did or the devil did. Ironic, isn't it? You do the same things religious people did in his day. As Jesus said, "No sign will be given to them" who are merely testing him. (Although a sincere, truly open-minded test is OK)

2. We hear elsewhere it has to be "according to his will" although miracles can be is will, and many Christians have seen bonifide miracles. (I lost the tape you will doubtless demand to see, sorry)

Quote:14:14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.

My personal experience is that I got as much or more than I asked for, although not overnight.

Nice shot though guy Cool Shades

Can I ask, if you could experience those "rivers of living water flowing from [your] innermost being," would you care about the rest? I suddenly didn't.

Quote:If Christianity is true, every blind person should promptly have perfect vision!

And I haven't the slightest doubt we all will see perfectly one day, in which case your demand for instant universal phyical healing will look stupid. Right?

But let me ask quite seriously, if Jesus came back and instantly healed 62% of all wounded vets, and healed the diseases of 81% of all the terminally ill patients in all the hospitals of the world over a period of one month, would you serve him?

(I would think very carefully before answering)

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