RE: Slavery and eating animals
February 2, 2015 at 2:24 pm
(This post was last modified: February 2, 2015 at 2:27 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(February 2, 2015 at 2:12 pm)robvalue Wrote: No. Cows suffer a huge amount in the farming process, I'm not talking about their death. Most people have no idea what goes on, it's a well kept secret sadly.In -one- of the processes. Sure. The predominate model, sure. It isn't the -only- model (or, in my estimation...even the best model).
So, so long as I don't use -that- model, provided that I use a better, more ethical model...eating meat is .......[_______]?
(February 2, 2015 at 2:13 pm)Faith No More Wrote: The actual act of eating is a non-issue, sure, but I'm talking about what the animal experiences in its lifetime because of the fact that it will eventually end up in my belly, and should I take into consideration that that animal's experiences are ended prematurely due to the fact that I will be enjoying it in a taco later?Oh, Idk, you let cattle loose and they might not live quite as long as they do. There is a certain trade-off to being a domesticate. In the worst of cases...it;s pretty much business as usual, plagued by disease and malnutrition only to wind up in some predatory animals belly.......but, human beings don't -have- to toe that line. We can ensure that their experience is of a much greater quality, even if it might not live much longer overall. On the other hand, it may, depends on the model and what sorts of arrangements and situation the producer finds himself in. I don't know why anyone would be expected to provide -anything- with the longest life it can possibly manage. We don't even do that for each other...but it should be a consideration for cattle? Hell, I'm willing to give livestock something I don't extend to you, for example...I'll provide a good life and a good death...care to set odds on getting that arrangement from me yourself (or from any other predator)? :wink:
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