(February 10, 2015 at 6:49 pm)emilynghiem Wrote:(February 10, 2015 at 6:14 pm)robvalue Wrote: If GC really thinks atheism is a choice, then that must mean Christianity is a choice too. So he's saying people choose to buy into it, rather than being convinced that it's actually real. In other words, they don't believe it at all but go along with it.
Can't have it both ways.
Good points.
What I find is the issue is not Christian vs. nonchristian
or theist vs. nontheist
It is Forgiveness vs. Unforgiveness.
As long as people accept each other and forgive differences,
we can work things out in the same spirit of truth and love
whether we are theist nontheist, Christian nonchristian, etc.
If people CANNOT forgive differences, even two Christians will argue and not resolve it, two theists, two atheists, etc.
The first step is to forgive and let go of fear of changing each other.
And then whatever is needed to resolve conflicts follows naturally.
Where Christianity helps with forgiveness, then that is central and true.
But where Christians can't even forgive, that is self-defeating and false.
Its not even..... when it comes down too it and this is the reality of it all.
Atheist/Secular humanist homes have better families and moral values than any theistic household would ever have ever period. The fact is if you look at the data secular/atheist families tend to be a happier family have stronger family ties and even jail statistics there is hardly atheists in jails. What it boils down to is and the majority doesn't want to accept is that atheists are great people and good-natured people who help because they are not doing it for x y z god they are doing it for helping a fellow human being. And the sad fact is i live that life i get told oh your nice guy its sad that well since you are doing this charity work not for god but of your own free will its selfish and you are going to burn in hell. Its not my choice i don't believe in god i just knew i had the information i was skeptical about the bible and events hell i mean i don't mind church but the thing is i feel more better as an atheist than i was a theist because its irrational to fear hell, hell was never suppose to exist in the bible the only reasons why it was added in the first place was to get back people who were leaving the faith.
Atheism is a non-prophet organization join today.
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