I need major help with my Christian Family

[emilynghiem]

I was only trying to get you to see that your parents love you, through all they've done for you, I haven't asked you to change your mind about your non-belief, as far as I'm concerned that's something you'll need to do, but it will effect your relationship with your family sooner or later, that you can count on. I'm only trying to give you something to consider about your decision, it's your life, just be ready to live it.

im not changing, and I can see you have shitty parents, my friends are christian and they suddenly dont hate me because of my beliefs, so why would my parents?

this is healthy and ideal to have friends and family who accept each other and aren't scared of differences. I met an atheist who studied regularly with a Catholic Bible study and they all got along great. One of my favorite atheist friends actively teaches forgiveness and abundance in grace in life, the same as Christians teach, but as part of Natural laws and just common sense to stay sane, and he doesn't believe in, need, or use the Bible God or Jesus to teach the same things about forgiveness, healing and maintaining sane healthy relationships.

the Bible explains there are going to be secular gentiles who follow the law by nature or conscience, and these become a law unto themselves. And that Jesus said he governs the gentiles as another fold of the same flock. the natural laws are consistent and help check the spiritual laws; and there doesn't need to be this phobic conflict or fear going on.

people are funny!

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Er, no. There is no evidence whatsoever of any of these "alternative" treatments having any effect at all beyond a placebo. Sorry.

(Anecdotes are not evidence.)

Placebo's don't work. Just ask any alcoholic or pedophile addict if just "wishing or wanting" to change was enough.

The real deep spiritual healing work takes forgiving anything and everything connected to the abuse or addiction that someone is trying to overcome. It can take 10 to 25 years, to go through all the layers, so this is not some light wishing, placebo effect or any magic ritual that's going to change deep rooted sickness.

I also want to see how deep this spiritual healing can go.
If pedophiles can be cured, that would change this idea that such people just need to be "killed off" like lepers who were once deemed incureable.

I would still detain dangerous criminals, but what if science could detect these illnesses in the mind in advance (like detecting if cancer is benign or malignant or terminal) BEFORE someone kills or tortures an innocent victim. Science could really help take the stigma and myth out of this whole field of studying the cause and cure of such illness.

As for objective formal research and study, as long as the only people even looking into this field seriously are all Christians who go around healing people and don't require medical proof to share it with others, then the research isn't being done.

it would require objective science-minded people getting involved and making sure the research studies are done right. So this is where I believe we are heading, finding the right people to work together and make sure it is done by valid professional standards.

And yes, proving the difference in effects between "positive and negative" energy could also be done by science, by developing technological means of measuring the difference in energy and studying the effects on either causing or curing sick symptoms, or facilitating healing or blocking it.

Even without measuring the energy physically (which I believe will come later with technological advances), I would also offer that observations and statistics can be documents on the effects reported of forgiveness or unforgiveness "correlating with" the ability of people to resolve their conflicts and "heal" their relationships. This can even be shown to be "independent of religious or political affiliation" and show that Christians who don't forgive have more problems than atheists who do forgive, etc.

This may not be a "causal" relationship (between forgiveness and resolving conflicts, and between unforgiveness/rejection and failing at reconciliation and consensus) but it can probably show "correlation" and encourage people to study that relationship further.

Thanks @robvalue I am recommending this forum and your blog to an atheist friend of mine who is completely unhappy with how people approach these things, and wants something else. he is very creative and has a wonderful sense of humor, if he can find the right audience to share it with, so I am hoping he will fit in and be happier by finding his niche!