If faith works how every religion says it works......

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And none of this answers my question.

No it means you can't be bothered to read the history of revival and how it changed the world. It would take you a month non-stop anyway

Let's say you're right... how did any of this "change the world"? At most, it changed one nation.

Right, so they mrely got us the U.S. And the U.S. Constitution didn't change the world? Hmmm Since without the U.S. we'd all be Nazi's or Communists, or dead, I think the world is better in ways few appreciate. I know atheists flocked to Russia from the U.S. when the Communists said they would make a paradise, but they found out atheist leaders don't handle skepticism well, and came back. BTW, was it secular humanists who elected Washington and Jefferson and Madison, or Christians who believed in stuff like the resurrection??

Individuals are responsible for the Enlightenment. Religion had nothing to do with it.

I thought you said Christians were an impediment to it? I see, so if some Christian was an impediment, religion had something to do with it. If not, then it had nothing to do with it. Have I got your position right now?

And it seems you want to put all the blame for this on Catholics. And how were they "totally ignorant of the Bible"? They read the book and came to certain conclusions. The book hasn't changed. What makes their conclusions incorrect?

No they didn't read it. There were millions of Christians with no Bibles. When they read it the world changed. Virtually all Enlightenment social activists and political movers were either Chrsitians or lived by Jesus' teachings, including Jefferson. Luther never saw a Bible throughout his theological training schooling, and had to go find one, a Latin version, in a library. (And even he got some of it wrong)

He came to some conclusions alright.

Who somehow wrote similies like Shakespeare (better ones IMO)

What does poetry have to do with fanciful tales contained in an ancient book of unknown origin?

Similies are prose as well. You just made a straw man argument btw

Now check out a couple of statements of yours and tell me what reason I have to think you are sincere:

No, I'm merely taking what the Bible says and running with it.

Then when I asked you what good it did for God to work miracles for the Israelites, you said

It didn't happen

Like I said, if the Bible fits your agenda you use it, and if it doesn't fit, it didn't happen.

Is that how you wish to debate? If so, I would be wasting my time. Right?