RE: Has the role of Ijtehad exposes Islam to be false.
February 18, 2015 at 4:11 am
(This post was last modified: February 18, 2015 at 4:15 am by CristW.)
Another plain contradiction and highly improbable event is the institution of Bayt-alMal (Islamic Banking system) which would enforce the idea of no usury(Riba) throughout society.
Imagine a Imam/Khalifah instituting this system. How would society run without private banking and finance? Probably this is the best course of action? However, the previous has been applied before by the ... atheistic SOVIETS!
The Soviet Union tried to operate with a zero interest system and centralized banking (Karl Marx mentioned it as one of his solutions in many of his published books).
So, this is nothing new because even the early Christians and Christians kingdoms afterwards attempted to implement a zero interest system throughout society (at least, human society under their control).
How did the Christian kingdoms of the European peninsula handled it? They simply allowed it in some form. The same thing was done in the Soviet Union, some form of private banking operated outside of the central bank. They simply renamed it to something else. The previous "fraud" game was then adopted by the Saudis and other Muslim governments to simply say they were loyal to the divine commandment.
This idea from the Islamic clerics to simply rename(rebranding) it as something else is to avoid the obvious! The orders of avoiding USURY (RIBA) is impossible even by declaring that human actions could cover it! It is Like saying intentions of actions could avoid the sin of usury ( by also stating it is a tax of some sort is STILL usury !!! ). The same con game was employed by the earlier Christian Kingdoms.
Let's be honest and straightforward the problem with all three systems was LOW MONEY SUPPLY in circulation. Simply put, the United States was able, despite some economic problems, able to create small businesses and this allowed some businesses to innovate new technology into society.
The current realities, and the modern world, would in essence, force the Islamic State to operate as a religious soviet banking system.
I predict that two factions will develop:
1. A pure irrational brand of muslims concerning the complete avoidance of riba (usury) in society.
2. A modern group of muslims who would avoid the issue completely and be branded as heretics by the first group.
Point being, the avoidance of usury has been proven to be the main evidence against any Divine Command concerning economic issues and the validity of the Divine Command. In other words; ECONOMY as one of the sciences, and this previous science has exposed the Abrahamic religions concerning the avoidance of usury to be nonsensical.
When it was introduced by the Jewish scribes, it was meant as an avoidance between Jews but fully enforced against non-Jews. In other words, it was a form of a Jizyah tax on Non-Jews involving commercial transactions.
The issue of avoiding RIBA (usury), within Islam, is one of the reasons that Islam is not from a Divine source but borrowed ideas from others. It is one of the areas in which Islamic scholars are adept in issuing ijtehad (legal interpretation) and keeps them busy along with nonsensical social subjects.
Imagine a Imam/Khalifah instituting this system. How would society run without private banking and finance? Probably this is the best course of action? However, the previous has been applied before by the ... atheistic SOVIETS!
The Soviet Union tried to operate with a zero interest system and centralized banking (Karl Marx mentioned it as one of his solutions in many of his published books).
So, this is nothing new because even the early Christians and Christians kingdoms afterwards attempted to implement a zero interest system throughout society (at least, human society under their control).
How did the Christian kingdoms of the European peninsula handled it? They simply allowed it in some form. The same thing was done in the Soviet Union, some form of private banking operated outside of the central bank. They simply renamed it to something else. The previous "fraud" game was then adopted by the Saudis and other Muslim governments to simply say they were loyal to the divine commandment.
This idea from the Islamic clerics to simply rename(rebranding) it as something else is to avoid the obvious! The orders of avoiding USURY (RIBA) is impossible even by declaring that human actions could cover it! It is Like saying intentions of actions could avoid the sin of usury ( by also stating it is a tax of some sort is STILL usury !!! ). The same con game was employed by the earlier Christian Kingdoms.
Let's be honest and straightforward the problem with all three systems was LOW MONEY SUPPLY in circulation. Simply put, the United States was able, despite some economic problems, able to create small businesses and this allowed some businesses to innovate new technology into society.
The current realities, and the modern world, would in essence, force the Islamic State to operate as a religious soviet banking system.
I predict that two factions will develop:
1. A pure irrational brand of muslims concerning the complete avoidance of riba (usury) in society.
2. A modern group of muslims who would avoid the issue completely and be branded as heretics by the first group.
Point being, the avoidance of usury has been proven to be the main evidence against any Divine Command concerning economic issues and the validity of the Divine Command. In other words; ECONOMY as one of the sciences, and this previous science has exposed the Abrahamic religions concerning the avoidance of usury to be nonsensical.
When it was introduced by the Jewish scribes, it was meant as an avoidance between Jews but fully enforced against non-Jews. In other words, it was a form of a Jizyah tax on Non-Jews involving commercial transactions.
The issue of avoiding RIBA (usury), within Islam, is one of the reasons that Islam is not from a Divine source but borrowed ideas from others. It is one of the areas in which Islamic scholars are adept in issuing ijtehad (legal interpretation) and keeps them busy along with nonsensical social subjects.
