RE: Hell and the Play Nice Christian
February 18, 2015 at 4:28 pm
(This post was last modified: February 18, 2015 at 4:37 pm by Godscreated.)
(February 17, 2015 at 11:51 pm)AFTT47 Wrote:(February 17, 2015 at 11:21 pm)Godschild Wrote: Not a bad answer, just one you do not like to hear. You nor anyone else chooses hell, we're born to it. The real choice is Christ and only through Him is salvation possible.
GC
How can I "choose" something I don't believe exists? I get tortured for eternity for being wrong? That is evil beyond description. And you want to spend eternity with the agent of such evil?
I have news for you GC: If you are right, we live in a nightmare universe and it won't be any better for you than it will for me. The God you believe in is worse than anything imaginable.
If you say so, but we'll see, death is the great revelation of truth.
GC
(February 18, 2015 at 10:18 am)Mister Agenda Wrote:(February 17, 2015 at 6:30 pm)Godschild Wrote: There will be an eternity of torment, not from God, but from the individuals that are there, they torment their own selves, this is how the sins of each will have there own consequences. This is how the torment of some will be far worse than others, they suffer because of what they have done individually. those in hell will be their own torment, God has nothing to do with that part, it's the individuals doing, crazy but fits the scriptures. You don't like it take it to God.
GC
I'd love to know which Bible verses say all that. It sounds made-up to me.
None directly do, I've explained this in detail before. All the things said about hell in scripture seem to fit what I believe and I clearly stated that. I also said I might be wrong.
GC
(February 18, 2015 at 1:00 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote:(February 18, 2015 at 12:58 pm)FreeTony Wrote: The Christians that I know (and I've asked) don't believe in hell, and think that those that do are pretty fucked up.
How exactly do they square that with what's in the Bible?
They can't, if one part is wrong none of it should be trusted. There can be no reward if there isn't the opposite, this is justice.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.