Hate the belief, not the believer

[Brian37]

Losty something I forgot to mention - The fact you hate the belief but not the believer doesn't mean you have to endure abuse and pure stupidity in the name of religion and abstain from calling it out. When I see someone doing something terrible because god said so I always call them out, on the internet and in real life. If religious people engage in ridiculous behaviour they deserve to be ridiculed and criticized.

I think you can hate the believer if she/he is clearly a "bad" person - When a white supremacist spits out bullshit I don't merely hate the ideology, I hate him/her for being such a bigoted asshole. I don't see why we shouldn't do the same with Christians - Yes Christianity is not the same as racial supremacism, but it's an ideology that can be used with prejudiced intent, particularly against women, LGBT, apostates, non-believers, other theists, etc

I agree, the negative emotions don't need to be attached
to actively address and correct the wrongs.

In fact, I find it helps with being more effective
if there AREN'T these negative attachments in the way.
Letting that go frees the mind so more wisdom and insights,
and rational steps can be taken and communicated toward solutions.

the emotions often obstruct the communication and relations
making it harder to correct the problem, especially when both sides
get defensive. easier not to go there, and forgiveness is the one thing that diffuses instead of escalating the issues.

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I'm mad because people took off on me and forgot the important thing "Losty," actually until today I didn't understand the her user name, I do now. You guys don't bother me often and most of the time when you do I do not respond. This has nothing to do with me, it's about forgetting the one that has a need.

GC

Hi Godschild I am also touched that you have more compassion than you know how to express sometimes. [I am probably worse at having to deal with things like this, as your posts above still sound better than what I just went through on another site. I could not help but make pointed remarks, at why I wasn't getting instructions how to correct the problems. Which of course got me banned by Mods who weren't trying to work with me like the ones here who do.]

As for Losty I see that you are worried about losing or turning from that relationship with God through Christ.

May I assure you that the connection is never lost, but new things have arisen in awareness to sort out, and that connection IS being used to sort through those. Losty is just using the secular part of the mind to reason through it, but both the heart and mind are part of the same conscience where Christ connects us collectively.

Forgiveness and getting rid of fear, clears off obstructions blocking that natural relationship from shining through. It's still there, but it is being used to sort through thoughts and work through a lot of issues.

So if you continue what you are doing, and support with full loving grace, then that is still received. Only the fear blocks it, so please let your love be greater than that fear, and it is cast out of the way.

Nothing can come between us and the love of God.
Any fear is overcome by perfect love.
Any unforgiveness cannot withstand in the presence of healing grace.

So GC i join with you in supporting that environment of complete submersion and reception of loving grace that heals all wounds
and breaks down any barriers in the way.

May God richly bless you and give
you even more support, wisdom and natural faith
to feel and bring out God's presence in all things,
all people, all relations that connect you with others in life.

May it grow and multiply in abundance before your eyes
where you know you can be perfectly still, and know that God is here.

Love, Emily

Nothing can come between you and God? Really? Despite no evidence. Despite the overwhelming evidence that those claims were written by scientifically ignorant humans when they had no way of knowing what evidence was?

You think atheists cant have empathy for others without believing?

I know you may truly believe you are comforting GC but you are not helping anyone by perpetuating a naked assertion. If someone tells you the earth revolves around the sun you thank them for their correction. You dont fear being wrong.

The atheists here when we engage theists, not just here but anywhere, are telling a harsh truth. Yes it can be hard facing it, but we think better of our fellow humans in that they are capable of better logic than "poof" logic. Santa may bring kids comfort, but it is nothing to cling to as an adult