RE: Perfect, Best of Possible, or Better than Nothing: Which criterion?
May 16, 2015 at 7:39 pm
(This post was last modified: May 16, 2015 at 7:50 pm by Randy Carson.)
(May 16, 2015 at 7:36 pm)Randy Carson Wrote:(May 16, 2015 at 12:17 pm)Pyrrho Wrote:
Yes, there is free will in heaven.
No, there is no evil in heaven.
Is this a problem? Logically, if everyone in heaven has freely chosen to obey God, then there is no evil or sin. The stupidity of the above is found in the assumption that free will MUST result in evil. It doesn't.
Look at it this way:
Do kids in a classroom have free will? Yes.
Can they choose to be disruptive when there is a substitute teacher? Yes.
Can they choose to be obedient instead? Yes.
Is there any problem in the classroom in that case? No.
I realize that there are some really smart atheists whose arguments deserve to be taken seriously, but if a theist posted something this absurd, A) you guys would be all over it, and B) I'd be embarrassed that my faith was being represented so poorly.
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(May 16, 2015 at 7:37 pm)Nope Wrote: Randy, do you not believe that some angels in heaven rebelled against god?
I do.
[Jesus] replied, “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven.
From the Catechism:
414 Satan or the devil and the other demons are fallen angels who have freely refused to serve God and his plan. Their choice against God is definitive. They try to associate man in their revolt against God.
