(September 20, 2022 at 5:09 pm)R00tKiT Wrote:(September 20, 2022 at 5:01 pm)polymath257 Wrote: Exactly the characteristics of a fundamentalist: they think they have the one, true answer and nobody should debate it.
There actually are some topics/issues in Islamic faith or jurisprudence that only admit one true answer. You either accept the answer or you can no longer consider yourself a Muslim. Muslims take their religion seriously, call them "fundamentalists" or whatever you want.
It's a bit like someone clearly showingyou some math proof and that the result/theorem is necessarily true (given some assumptions), and then you get angry and say : what a fundamentalist way to see things ? can't this theorem be interpreted any other way ..? there must be some way to avoid the correctness of this proof
It's exactly the same thing in religion. Once you accept metaphysical assumptions about God's existence and the divine source of the Qur'an, you have to accept the logical consequences, you can't play fast and loose with the faith after that.
(September 20, 2022 at 5:01 pm)polymath257 Wrote: There is no 'correct' interpretation of the Quran
There is, but I assume at this point that you don't really care to know more about the topic.
Again, the Quran is wrong because it makes truth claims about a deity. Saying that there is only one interpretation doesn't mean that interpretation is the truth.
Being Muslim is NOT the same as 'believing the truth'. Those metaphysical assumptions and adherence to the Quran are precisely where things go wrong. The correctness of the proof is useless if the assumptions are invalid.
In contrast, the basic axioms of mathematics are not in doubt (outside of a few specialists). The correctness of the proof *does* say something about the truth of the conclusion.
