RE: Speed-of-light experiments give baffling result at Cern
September 24, 2011 at 3:17 pm
(This post was last modified: September 24, 2011 at 3:29 pm by Anomalocaris.)
I don't know if gravity effects neutrino speed, but Gravity well subtracts energy from the photon and redshifts the light but does not change its observed speed. If neutrino and light were to get going at the same time and travel at the same speed, they would both cover the same distance in the same amount of time regardless of the gravitational well at the source, is that not so?
I was referring to the fact that energy propagation by means other than neutrinos would take its time to work its way up through the dense gaseous envelope of the star through shockwave propagation, and repeated photo emission and absorption by the material of the star's mantle. So it takes a few hours between when the core collapse, and when the visible surface of the star shows any optical indications of the calamity within. Thus visible brightening of the supernova would always occur sometime after the initial neutrino flux.
The report indicates CERN found neutrino to have covered 732 km 60 nano seconds, or 0.00000006 seconds faster than light. At accepted c of 299792.458 km/sec, light should have covered the said distance in 2441692 nano seconds or 0,00244 seconds. THis indicates neutrino traveled at 1+(60/2441692) speed of light, or 1 part in 40694 faster than light, which is a massive discrepancy unmissable if amplified over many light years.
Now perhaps some types of neutrino can travel faster than light and some can not, perhaps neutrinos speed oscillate about c so that it averages out to c over long distances. But I these are all ad hoc explanations whose weight can't be very high compared to the cumulative weight of the all the validation specific relativity has undergone in the last 90 years.
I was referring to the fact that energy propagation by means other than neutrinos would take its time to work its way up through the dense gaseous envelope of the star through shockwave propagation, and repeated photo emission and absorption by the material of the star's mantle. So it takes a few hours between when the core collapse, and when the visible surface of the star shows any optical indications of the calamity within. Thus visible brightening of the supernova would always occur sometime after the initial neutrino flux.
The report indicates CERN found neutrino to have covered 732 km 60 nano seconds, or 0.00000006 seconds faster than light. At accepted c of 299792.458 km/sec, light should have covered the said distance in 2441692 nano seconds or 0,00244 seconds. THis indicates neutrino traveled at 1+(60/2441692) speed of light, or 1 part in 40694 faster than light, which is a massive discrepancy unmissable if amplified over many light years.
Now perhaps some types of neutrino can travel faster than light and some can not, perhaps neutrinos speed oscillate about c so that it averages out to c over long distances. But I these are all ad hoc explanations whose weight can't be very high compared to the cumulative weight of the all the validation specific relativity has undergone in the last 90 years.
