(April 25, 2017 at 1:59 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:(April 25, 2017 at 1:55 pm)Brian37 Wrote: We weren't even made. We manifested because of countless events throughout our sun's existence. A meteor here, a meteor there, a comet here a comet there, things could have ended up being nothing. We wouldn't exist if it were not for the meteor that killed the dinosaurs. And as far as our current knowledge of the age of the sun, and expected time of running out of fuel in 5 billion years, even if we don't kill ourselves off in a nuclear war, odds are another cosmic collision from a meteor or comet will wipe us out, and if other life is lucky too, it will continue without us.
Humans were not made anymore than a hurricane is made. Conditions lead to both.
We were made by natural processes that resulted from the conditions found in the universe we live in.
Was that long winded enough for you?
He he. I think we are both being pedantic. I don't like using the word "made" because fundies jump on that and say "AH HA, so everything created has a creator".
When we use certain words it does not mean what the theist wants it to mean.