RE: Genesis interpretations - how many are there?
July 13, 2018 at 3:05 pm
(This post was last modified: July 13, 2018 at 3:24 pm by Drich.)
(July 11, 2018 at 2:05 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Well Mr. Drich, you have 2 plainly worded scriptures in consecutive Genesis chapters that both cannot be true.
There's also that little matter at the Last Supper where Jesus did wine then bread in one inerrant gospel and bread then wine in another supposedly inerrant gospel.
And Lord knows you don't like how I see the matter of whether or not Simon of Cyrene carried Jesus cross. And at least my take leaves both accounts as true in that regard.
You haven't even read the start of genesis two have you? from verse 4 to 6 makes BOTH genesis 1 and genesis 2 jive.
4 This is the [a]history of the heavens and the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens, 5 before any plant of the field was in the earth and before any herb of the field had grown. For the Lord God had not caused it to rain on the earth, and there was no man to till the ground; 6 but a mist went up from the earth and watered the whole face of the ground.
Do you see?
"This" meaning everything in Genesis 2 is the [a]history of the heavens and the earth.. Meaning everything in chapter two happened on this singular day.. what day? continue reading: "when they were created happens on the day the earth made the heavens and earth, but before the day he made plants or herbs because there was no rain yet." so day two day three because God had made the heavens and earth/separated water from land but before plants, everything he is describing next in chapter two happened in that time frame. created land but before the rain and plants.. so what happened in that time frame? everything in chapter two, meaning the garden, Adam and everything in the garden eve and everything else upto the fall.. while that was going on day two and three roll by outside the garden.
Do you understand?
Chapter one is an over view
Chapter two is garden creation specific.
"On the day between creation of dry land but before the plants and rain God created all of what happened in chapter 2."
Everything else God created in Chapter 1 is in order that it happened outside the garden.
That means Adam/man with soul was created 1st and put the work in the garden, then God created day 6 man and he dewelled outside the garden.
This also means with this slight adjustment on the traditional reading, that all of the other creation paradoxes go away as well. as in who did Adam's children marry, where did the city of nod come from the cain ran off to after killing his brother. All those other people were descendants from day 6 man.
(July 11, 2018 at 2:05 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: There's also that little matter at the Last Supper where Jesus did wine then bread in one inerrant gospel and bread then wine in another supposedly inerrant gospel.Is it not true if you do bread and wine, you also do wine and bread? Honestly what in your mind thinks the fate of all christianity hinges on the order of wine and bread?
Maybe you are confused about the doctrine of inerrancy, or maybe your confused what inerrancy pertains to scripturally. meaning how the bible itself defines inerrancy. If you do then why hold the bible to this false expectation of perfection, when the bible itself NEVER claims to be perfect as God is perfect. It simply claims to be all that you need to establish and maintain a real relationship with God.
So again it is not the order of the bread or wine but the purpose for the bread and wine that all gospels and even acts reports for the reason that is important.
Quote:And Lord knows you don't like how I see the matter of whether or not Simon of Cyrene carried Jesus cross.A man named simon carried the cross for a bit. that is true in all 3 instances that he is mentioned. John simply points out Jesus was made to carry it at first. No gospel says simon carried the cross from the get go.
Quote: And at least my take leaves both accounts as true in that regard.no idea what you are talking about.