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California ban on high capacity magazines declared unconstitutional
RE: California ban on high capacity magazines declared unconstitutional
(April 5, 2019 at 3:31 pm)Aegon Wrote: Is it not the height of laziness to act as if rights written hundreds of years ago are as permanent as the cycle of life? Government already bans people from possessing or doing plenty of things, and as far as I can tell there isnt a good argument for protecting the right to own guns specifically.
Yes, there are plenty of things we're not allowed to own, but getting rid of the second wouldn't actually make guns one of them by default, or remove any legal challenge a gun owner can mount.

Quote:But obviously I'm being idealistic, as we're long past the point of amending that amendment

Maybe, but doing so isn't the magic bullet people think it is.  Idealistically, and in actuality...you have all the rights listed, and one of those is all the rights not listed.  

There is no conceivable way for the government to blanket ban gun ownership that wouldn't find itself immediately challenged.  We'd have to get rid of five amendments to do what most people think getting rid of the second would accomplish. All the while, there's no real reason to get rid of the second in the first place. Our rights aren't a suicide pact. The 2nd amendment doesn't make it illegal to write reasonable restrictions. The fed has them, every state has them, cities have them.

Personally, I think that any plan that accomplishes the goal while preserving our rights, rather than diminishing our rights, would be the better of two plans. Isn't that the whole point of this, to be as free from government restriction as is possible, to limit what the government can and can't do to within an inch of what it needs to function?

Any space the government doesn't need is my space, your space..our space. The government works for us, we don't exist at it's pleasure. It has to balance my right..yes, right..to own a gun, or any other thing, with it;s responsibility to protect the rights of both me and everyone else. It can do that, even in this instance, without diminishing the sole purpose of it's own existence.
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RE: California ban on high capacity magazines declared unconstitutional - by The Grand Nudger - April 5, 2019 at 3:56 pm

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