God's Love

[Johanabrahams]

 Nope.  I can not change.

Job 42
  10 And the Lord turned the captivity of Job, when he prayed for his friends: also the Lord gave Job twice as much as he had before.

   Then came there unto him all his brethren, and all his sisters, and all they that had been of his acquaintance before, and did eat bread with him in his house: and they bemoaned him, and comforted him over all the evil that the Lord had brought upon him: every man also gave him a piece of money, and every one an earring of gold.
   So the Lord blessed the latter end of Job more than his beginning: for he had fourteen thousand sheep, and six thousand camels, and a thousand yoke of oxen, and a thousand she asses.
   He had also seven sons and three daughters.
   And he called the name of the first, Jemima; and the name of the second, Kezia; and the name of the third, Keren–happuch.
   And in all the land were no women found so fair as the daughters of Job: and their father gave them inheritance among their brethren.
   After this lived Job an hundred and forty years, and saw his sons, and his sons’ sons, even four generations.
   So Job died, being old and full of days.

Wrong! You have the capacity to change, you simply lack the intellectual honesty to do so.

In this book God is guilty of the gratuitous killing of human beings, the wanton destruction of property, the unjustified assault on job's person, and a hideous display of his own egotism and conceit---all for the sole purpose of winning a bet with the Devil. The fact that God later restored Job's wealth does not erase the reality of his crimes. The fact that Job lacked the moral courage to stand erect and shout, "J'accuse!" at his tyrant deity does not vindicate God's immoral behavior either.

Your God is about as full of love as Hitler.

You are a perfect example of how religion and faith debilitate the mind and unfit it for honest thinking.

Wrong! You have the capacity to change, you simply lack the intellectual honesty to do so.

Why would I change when God's discipline for a wrong life just allows for more blessings at the end of my "disciplining"?  Should I be scared of "discipline"?  Be like you?  Not knowing it is just necessary discipline for a wrong life from my Father?

In this book God is guilty of the gratuitous killing of human beings, the wanton destruction of property, the unjustified assault on job's person, and a hideous display of his own egotism and conceit---all for the sole purpose of winning a bet with the Devil.

God just used the devil to reach His purpose.  Disciplining His Child to have a Greater Relationship with His Dad.  The child of a Father should not "hear" from its Father from other people.  He should speak to His Father Personally.  And Job was happy because of His Discipline in Love and Wisdom from His Father.

Job 42
 [/size] Then Job answered the Lord, and said,
  [size=undefined]2[/size] I know that thou canst do every thing, and that no thought can be withholden from thee.
  [/size] Who is he that hideth counsel without knowledge? therefore have I uttered that I understood not; things too wonderful for me, which I knew not.
  [/size] Hear, I beseech thee, and I will speak: I will demand of thee, and declare thou unto me.
  [/size] I have heard of thee by the hearing of the ear: but now mine eye seeth thee.
  [/size] Wherefore I abhor myself, and repent in dust and ashes.

The fact that God later restored Job's wealth does not erase the reality of his crimes. The fact that Job lacked the moral courage to stand erect and shout, "J'accuse!" at his tyrant deity does not vindicate God's immoral behavior either.

Job just reaped the consequences of having a "religion".  Just like me.  He has been restored into human life again because what is now a possibility didn't exist in his times.  And i am not.  I have been given a Greater Life than I had before.  I had 2 daughters.  Now I have hundreds.  With Abaddon included of course.

Your God is about as full of love as Hitler.

Your evidence is sadly wanting.  Like Father like Son.  God used bad consequences for the good of His Children.  As is witnessed here and in my Life too.  

You are a perfect example of how religion and faith debilitate the mind and unfit it for honest thinking.

I agree.  I was also destroyed for lack of speaking to God on a Personal Basis.  I went to study theology/religion And I created for myself a human being life by obeying the evil spirit of religion just like Job.    And the consequences of not asking my Father took me through much pain and despair. 

But now I am reaping the benefit.  And you too.  Because now I am Holy.  Just like God your Father.  Having nothing to which everybody in the world takes second place.  Because if i still had a human life then you would have stand last in the row.  After my wife and kids and family and friends and work and money. 

Now you are everything to Me.  If you can see.

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Outsider test.  Posts like these come off as completely nuts.

Nuts are nice.  Specially if they come with chocolate.

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To judge me as an "evil lunatic" without evidence is what we call "hypocrisy" in the Word of God.  The reason being is that it is just your opinion. As it is standing now.  You provided no evidence to make it the judgment you want it to be.

Well, to be honest I also thought you were a lunatic and the evidence for it is the stuff you write, like that God gave birth to you and that there are evil babies and some other stuff. Now, I know you quoted Bible to "prove" how there are a lot of evil babies, but that doesn't matter much because anyone can quote Bible to say what ever he wants it to say and you want it to say that babies are evil.

Well, to be honest I also thought you were a lunatic and the evidence for it is the stuff you write,

Yep.  I agree with you. From intellectual point of view this is just the only explantation.  But don't worry.  It has always been like that.  You are just part of the intellectual life of humans.

John 10
 [/size] ¶There was a division therefore again among the Jews for these sayings.
  [/size] And many of them said, He hath a devil, and is mad; why hear ye him?
  [/size] Others said, These are not the words of him that hath a devil. Can a devil open the eyes of the blind?

like that God gave birth to you

Yep.  Difficult to comprehend.  But all the "Children of God" in the religions are "born of Him".  There is just no other way to become a Child of God with God as your Father.  But because of their strife vs one another they don't grow much in their understanding and thus fumble a lot when you speak to them from your point of view.  But don't judge the Babies of God too harshly.  They are just Babies.  God Loves His Babies too.  They are rather cute.  

and that there are evil babies and some other stuff.

Yep.  We believe evil is inbred.  That is why they are so selfish and stubborn as babies.  But we still love them.  Even when they grow up and start persecuting their own family for believing or not believing.

Mat. 10
  And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death. 
    And ye shall be hated of all men for my name’s sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

I mean.  I experience all of  this and have to hate the evil that is doing it. 

Luke 14
26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple. 
27 And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple.

But not the person for being deceived. 

Mat. 5
  38  ¶Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: 

  39  But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. 
  40  And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him havethy cloke also. 
  41  And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain. 
  42  Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away. 
  43  ¶Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. 
  44  But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 
  45  That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. 
  46  For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? 
  47  And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? 
[size=undefined]  48  Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
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Now, I know you quoted Bible to "prove" how there are a lot of evil babies,

yep.  Not just quoting it but also explaining it.

but that doesn't matter much because anyone can quote Bible to say what ever he wants it to say and you want it to say that babies are evil.

And there is more.  It is actually seen in every day life too.  And in mine.