RE: God's Love
June 6, 2020 at 9:01 am
(This post was last modified: June 6, 2020 at 9:22 am by Johanabrahams.
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(June 6, 2020 at 7:37 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote:(June 5, 2020 at 12:41 pm)Johanabrahams Wrote: Good. Take specially note of my actions in Die Herberg. At pages 18 and 19.Yes, I highly reccommend it.
Page 18 https://www.skepticforum.com/viewtopic.p...&start=680
Page 19 https://www.skepticforum.com/viewtopic.p...&start=720
Page 27 https://www.skepticforum.com/viewtopic.p...start=1040
Page 18 in which you agreed the following statement was correct.
Quote:You interfered with your wife's employment, a children's school, violating the legally-establish curriculum by spouting your religious nonsense, and disrupting the children's education.
Then this...
Quote:You terrorized the children by telling them they had evil spirits inside them.
To which you responded...
Quote:Not just them. The children's teachers as well.and a lot of other nonsense as well.
It was claimed that...
Quote:You repeatedly harassed the children's teachers.
To which you replied...
Quote:Yep. Every time they went into anger and rage against the children I spoke. But they complained and the head said I should stop speaking. And I stopped. Then something amazingly happened.
You also revealed that...
Quote:This time i was confined to my flat.Yup. Incarcerated at home. Home arrest. Because of what you did.
When it was claimed that...
Quote:You publicly slandered three different ministers in front of their congregations, calling them 'liars' and their spouses 'dirty.'
You replied...
Quote:Yep. I said things in those lines.
Then...
Quote:You disrupted services at those three churches by loudly preaching your religious nonsense.
You admitted...
Quote:Nope. I was actually outside far away on the sidewalk as they chased me away. And I obeyed. Because not to have obeyed would have been reason for the police to take me. So Iactually just greeted them softly on their arrival to the church because the police was watching.So your faith was so feeble that fear of the police presence was the only thing to scare you off.
But it worsens...
Quote: You harassed the three ministers both at their churches and at their homes.
And you said...
Quote:Yep. I went to their houses to speak "my religious nonsense". And when they chased me away. I said: No problem. I will even run. That is "giving the garment when the cloac"is taken. The advice from Jesus. And then I did not go again because to have went again would have been opportunity to phone the police and be put in prison.
Making it worse...
Quote:You refused to cease and desist your activities when ordered to by legal authorities.
To which you wrote...
Quote:True. When I operated the police were called to rescue the hundreds of people out of my hands. And when the police arrived I everybody was just giving a sign of relief. And then something amazing happened. When they though the police has defused the situation I just went on with what I was doing. And while the police watched me like hawks they didn't see anything wrong in what I was doing. And after some 15 minutes left again. This was going on for approximately 3 weeks. And then the police decided not to come out for me again. So they were forced to go for the court order.
All of that from your first post on page 18, yet somehow, you claim that it exonerates you or justifies your actions somehow.
(June 5, 2020 at 12:41 pm)Johanabrahams Wrote: It was speaking and acting against the child abuse that was from the side of the Authorities.But YOU were the child abuser in the whole sorry mess.
(June 5, 2020 at 12:41 pm)Johanabrahams Wrote: And then you will also notice in the last post on page 27 someone that really did a lot of research on me admitted that there was no violence from my side. And it will be very unlikely for me to be caught in that.Another lie. The last post on page 27 is from the forum admin and states...
Quote:1045 posts in this nonsense thread? You folks have a lot of stamina.
Got a couple of reports so I am locking it so I can review the complaints.
BTW and FYI, ed is the forum god.
(June 5, 2020 at 12:41 pm)Johanabrahams Wrote: But Abaddon said I was violently beating up the people with a "cudgel".Nope. I said you threatened them, not that you assaulted them.
Quote:You interfered with your wife's employment, a children's school, violating the legally-establish curriculum by spouting your religious nonsense, and disrupting the children's education.
Sure. I spoke against the "legally-established curriculum". Stating that children should be ruled by fear. According to the "curriculum" children had to fear their punishment by the pain the "bad tempered matrons and harsh and unfair principal" cause towards them.
I said that God disciplines in Love and Wisdom. Not the way they tried to link their ways to God.
I first gave them a teaching in this regard. And when they didn't accept it I proved it to them by doing it. And even took it to the streets. Their "bad tempers" vs Love. Their "harsh and unfairness" vs Wisdom. And they got "sick to death" by their own evil spirits.
Quote:You terrorized the children by telling them they had evil spirits inside them.
Explaining to the children that fear inside of them are an evil spirit caused by the "bad tempered matrons and unfair and harsh principal" is not really "terrorizing". You will need to find something else to prove that.
Quote:Not just them. The children's teachers as well.
At the same time that I acted in my way there were a writer in Die Herberg. Anoescka von Meck. The whole situation of the children abuse also made her act in writing a book on the situation. In Anoescka von Meck's book "Vaselinetjie" that she wrote on the situation the patrons were described as "bad tempered" and the principal as a "harsh and unfair" man. You will see the quote there. But unfortunately the links to the book is not working anymore. But it is easy to find the book on the internet.
These are "evil spirits" that ruled in Die Herberg. Same as your "anger" and your words coming from your mouth as result. And it is not strange that your marriage didn't last. Because you surely used them on your wife too? But maybe you have a different word there for these feelings and the resulting actions. You are welcome to tell us. As being in the same boat as the patrons and the principal I can understand your pride in yourself trying to defend yourself too.
Quote:You disrupted services at those three churches by loudly preaching your religious nonsense.
Sure. Explaining nicely to the congregation that the disciplining their pastors preached as from God by instilling fear is no Love. That was surely "disruptive". It was actually calling the "clergy out" on their lies. And nobody felt good about what i was saying. Specially since they witnessed for 5 years that I indeed disciplined my Children in Love and Wisdom.
Quote:So your faith was so feeble that fear of the police presence was the only thing to scare you off.
So you admit I was always totally obedient to everything I was told. Because my Power was only in the Love and Wisdom I always portrayed to all.
Quote:You refused to cease and desist your activities when ordered to by legal authorities.
You are totally confused by your evil spirit of "backbiting" that you got from the pastors. You just admitted that I obeyed. Only a fool will not obey the police. And if I didn't obey as you said then why was i not imprisoned? As i said previously. My Power was in Love and Wisdom. In my words. Not into any "violence" or disobedience or whatever all wants to attribute to me. I was no different there than i am now.
Quote:(June 5, 2020 at 12:41 pm)Johanabrahams Wrote: It was speaking and acting against the child abuse that was from the side of the Authorities.But YOU were the child abuser in the whole sorry mess.
The "bad tempered matrons and the unfair and harsh principal" according to Anoeschka were correct in their physical methods of "assault" in instilling fear? And i was the abuser by speaking against it? And Anoescka was also an "abuser" by writing a book on it?
Your "backbiting evil spirit" has totally blinded you. Because just recently the government has acted against your "legally-establish curriculum" and rejected it for what it was. The real "child abuse". So our government accepting what I said is now the "wrong" ones?
Quote:(June 5, 2020 at 12:41 pm)Johanabrahams Wrote: And then you will also notice in the last post on page 27 someone that really did a lot of research on me admitted that there was no violence from my side. And it will be very unlikely for me to be caught in that.Another lie. The last post on page 27 is from the forum admin and states...
You know very well I am speaking about Halleyscomet post there. Why do you rather quote the wrong post? Don't be "dishonest". Everyone can see the "evil backbiting spirit" which you call "sacrosanct" ruling you.
Quote:(June 5, 2020 at 12:41 pm)Johanabrahams Wrote: But Abaddon said I was violently beating up the people with a "cudgel".Nope. I said you threatened them, not that you assaulted them.
You said that I was a "violent" man threatening with a "cudgel". But suddenly you find no evidence for the violence or the "cudgel". Only one assault mentioned in the court orders. And it was against me. And I "turning the other cheek". And then the one of the pastor where he was trying to strangle me which we talked about in SGU. And I again turned the other cheek.
I all of this your "evil spirit of anger in your backbiting" has been clearly established now. Spinning the whole story to suit you and your pastor "friends". Who only misused you for their own evil actions.
I was speaking and acting against the evil spirit of fear introduced by the "bad tempered" patrons and "unfair and harsh principal" - According to Anoescka von Meck. As it was given by the pastors as the disciplining ways of God. In its place I established the Love and Wisdom in Forgiveness as from God. For doing this i was persecuted for 20 years now. And they pulled you in too. And you stubbornly persist that you are so "loving and correct"?
So how does it feel to have been fighting their case of corporal punishment? Against the ruling of our New Government. You think the Government made the wrong ruling? Are you into corporal punishment with your kids maybe?