RE: God's Love
June 14, 2020 at 8:06 am
(This post was last modified: June 14, 2020 at 8:17 am by UtilitarianDeist.)
It's quite obvious that most people wouldn't consider, for instance, the old testament God to be loving.
However, that doesn't mean that such a God doesn't exist, isn't powerful, or isn't good.
God is within us all so when I love myself that is God loving me.
God is within the universe so the universe being happy is just part of God being happy.
God is everywhere. Would you not agree?
Only in the sense that God wants what God wants. But that is just a tautology.
There's a difference between selfishness and anti-selflessness. All I mean by selfishness is fulfilling one's desires. Which is, like I said, kind of tautological because X desires what X desires.
How is that coherent when God loving me would be God loving himself? Don't you agree that God is everywhere and within us all?
If God wants that then, yes. Wouldn't you agree that if God doesn't want that then no?
I believe in God but I recognize that God's being everywhere and in everything means that God loving us is ultimately an act of self love on his part. That doesn't make him 'selfish' in any kind ofd bad way. Why? Because it's literally impossible for God to be bad. Why? Because goodness is defined by whatever God wants.
What I don't understand is why you seem to treat us and God as separate when God is within us all and nothing is beyond his reach or power.
However, that doesn't mean that such a God doesn't exist, isn't powerful, or isn't good.
(June 14, 2020 at 12:58 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: You "love" yourself? Is God Loving? Seems to me it is you selfishly loving yourself?
God is within us all so when I love myself that is God loving me.
Quote:You think the "universe" can be "happy"? Seems to me it is just existing. On our behalf?
God is within the universe so the universe being happy is just part of God being happy.
God is everywhere. Would you not agree?
Quote:This seems to me like a "selfish" God?
Only in the sense that God wants what God wants. But that is just a tautology.
Quote:If your "god" is selfishly loving himself then of course you find the motivation to selfishly love yourself too.
There's a difference between selfishness and anti-selflessness. All I mean by selfishness is fulfilling one's desires. Which is, like I said, kind of tautological because X desires what X desires.
Quote: Finding an "Unselfish God" now is your quest. Who Loves you more than Himself.
How is that coherent when God loving me would be God loving himself? Don't you agree that God is everywhere and within us all?
Quote:Finding His existence in Loving you to the Utmost. And you will find the same Love towards others. And The Real Godly Existence in Love. Where you become a Servant together with the Greatest Servant. And Ultimately find the Highest Purpose and Happiness in Life.
If God wants that then, yes. Wouldn't you agree that if God doesn't want that then no?
Quote: We find God's existence in Faith. Faith creates it for us. Just as God created the whole of the Universe just by speaking and believing in His Words because He is the Creator God. And now as His Children we obviously learn to be the same. Creating too. In Faith.
I believe in God but I recognize that God's being everywhere and in everything means that God loving us is ultimately an act of self love on his part. That doesn't make him 'selfish' in any kind ofd bad way. Why? Because it's literally impossible for God to be bad. Why? Because goodness is defined by whatever God wants.
What I don't understand is why you seem to treat us and God as separate when God is within us all and nothing is beyond his reach or power.