RE: The latest billionaire space circle jerk.
September 21, 2021 at 2:23 pm
(This post was last modified: September 21, 2021 at 2:33 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(September 21, 2021 at 10:54 am)Spongebob Wrote:(September 21, 2021 at 10:14 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Yeah....so sayeth the shills from big oil. A rumor that got started by it's inclusion in the 06 climate report. Two sentences not found in the body, but the executive summary. In it's full glory-
It was untrue when it was written, it's still untrue, but it made it's way into public perception as a fact. The most appalling bit, though, is that even if we assumed it were true for shits and giggles - there's literally no way to tackle our climate crisis by producing less food. We can switch off oil, we can't switch off eating - we're already hungry, and will only get hungrier in the face of these difficulties.
There's a lot of references to this from various universities, so I'm not sure why you believe it's something the oil companies created. And regarding your question about having to eat; sure we have to eat, but we don't have to eat meat. Before you go off, I'm not a vegetarian, so I'm not shaming anyone, but there are a lot of reasons why consuming meat products is bad for the environment. I suppose I could be convinced to take meat off the table, but I would be lying if I said I wouldn't miss it.
With respect to food, I think you'd find the situation more complicated than the notion that we don't have to eat meat. We do. We'd be raising livestock even if we didn't eat it.
As far as the claim - it was demonstrably false and corrected by it's senior author. Initially, the fao included emissions from fertilizer production, mechanical land conversion, feed production, and direct emissions from animals when they came up with the number. In contrast, when they considered transport.....they ignored the manufacturing process of the vehicles, ignored service parts and requirements, ignored assembly, ignored road maintenance, ignored bridges...ignored...airports........ It was a massive fuckup, and it was corrected. Here in the us, just for specificity, the actual emissions due to livestock, is something like 4% or less - and that's with poor (environmental) practices. The authors immediately owned up to all of this - but it was too late.
(the us, btw, leads the world in sustainable livestock - there was a boom from the 60's to today similar to the field crop boom from the 40's to the 60's - if these practices were industry standard, raising livestock would be a carbon sink and fewer people would go hungry. We're uniquely situated to prevent the collapse of wild fish stocks.)
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