RE: A "meta-argument" against all future arguments for God's existence ?
March 27, 2022 at 3:28 am
(March 26, 2022 at 11:14 pm)Ferrocyanide Wrote: So, when Russia setup nuclear missiles in Cuba, the USA did not like it.No
It’s the same with the current situation. Russia does not like it when the USA is setting up shop near their borders.
Not the same but an equivocation. A real bad one at that, since you need to demonstrate that Ukraine is not acting on her own behalf)
(March 26, 2022 at 11:14 pm)Ferrocyanide Wrote: When Russia sent a sub to the North pole and planted a flag under the ocean, Canada did not like it and I imagine the USA did not like it.More, very bad ones, equivocations.
Russia claims that the upper parts of Canada, where you have some random small islands does not belong to Canada and has sent submarines and is interested in petrol. Again, this is something that Canada doesn’t want. I don’t know the details but I think Canada has stationed a small group of people on some of those islands as evidence that it is Canadian territory.
(March 26, 2022 at 11:14 pm)Ferrocyanide Wrote: Look at the case of Iraq. The USA decided to invade Iraq, destroy its army and Sadam Hussein in order to establish freedom. Do you think that is how Russia and China and North Korea views it?Which is all but irrelevant to the evaluation of the russian invasion of another country. Whataboutism is not a good argument, as i already have explained to Jehanne (iirc).
For sure, they discuss what the USA is up to. The USA calls its NATO partners to go to Iraq, destroy it, take the petrol. That’s probably how they view it.
The USA repeated the same kind of thing in Lybia, in Central America, I think in Nicaragua and such.
(March 26, 2022 at 11:14 pm)Ferrocyanide Wrote: Each views their way as the right way.Ans none of that is relevant to the evaluation of the russian invasion of another country.
Or are we at the "its just your opinion, dude" stage in this conversation?
(March 26, 2022 at 11:14 pm)Ferrocyanide Wrote: Russia is protecting russian people who are in Ukraine.Thats what russian government controlled media are spewing, propaganda. Got some facts to support this?
(March 26, 2022 at 11:14 pm)Ferrocyanide Wrote: Signing papers is great but the most important thing is to have a powerful army and to have enough material and energy resources to have long wars.And this (like many arguments and fallacies before that one) does not justify an invasion.
All wars are a matter of resources.
(March 26, 2022 at 11:14 pm)Ferrocyanide Wrote: Europe is trying to put pressure on Russia with sanctions. That’s great but where are they getting their natural gas and other needs now?Quatar and the US
Not optimal choices considering the track record of those two, but a step forward.
(March 26, 2022 at 11:14 pm)Ferrocyanide Wrote: Germany refused to refuse Russia gas.And Russia refused to stop delivering gas.
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