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I have studied the Bible and the theology behind Christianity for many years. I have been to many churches. I have walked the depth and the breadth of the religion and, as a result of this, I have a lot of bullshit to scrape off the bottom of my shoes. ~Ziploc Surprise
RE: Saying "Merry Christmas" is worse than killing someone.
December 19, 2011 at 12:13 am
Well color me surprised...
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
RE: Saying "Merry Christmas" is worse than killing someone.
December 19, 2011 at 1:12 am
(December 19, 2011 at 12:15 am)Cinjin Wrote: Hey Rayaan ... Merry Christmas my brother!
I'm not a christian ... I'll still try to enjoy the season with my fellow human beings.
Exactly.... sometimes its ok just to enjoy a celebration for your own reasons and not just sh*t on everyone's good time. If they're not pressing me about my beliefs, I'm not particularly interested in picking a fight. Seems like followers of islam aren't as interested in tolerance as they are interested in peddling their b/s.
RE: Saying "Merry Christmas" is worse than killing someone.
December 19, 2011 at 1:27 am
Followers of any of the monorail gods are not interested in tolerance. This is clear from their antagonistic views on each other's bullshit while extolling the virtues of their own pile.
I say merry xmas because it means a time when people value family, good food, people watching at the mall, and a sense of humanity, none of which has anything to do with some dinosaurish religion about a dude stapled to a piece of wood.
RE: Saying "Merry Christmas" is worse than killing someone.
December 19, 2011 at 5:26 am
Merry Christmas to you, too, Cinjin.
I don't celebrate Christmas, because I'm a Muslim, but I understand what you mean by saying that and that's why don't have a problem with it.
I just wouldn't say "Merry Christmas" to a Muslim because they don't celebrate it. I wouldn't say it to any random person either because I don't know whether or not they celebrate it and I don't know what is their religion. To me, saying "Merry Christmas" does seem to have a religious connection behind it since I think that the holiday used to have pagan roots (although I'm not too sure about the exact history behind it). However, I wouldn't dislike it if anyone says "Merry Christmas" to me because they may have a different intention for saying it. Maybe they are not even religious, but only celebrate Christmas as a cultural thing. I, personally, view it more as a religious holiday than a cultural one. But that's just my opinion. For some people, maybe Christmas is a holiday which is both religious and cultural at the same time. Atheists, however, celebrate Christmas only as a cultural part of their lives (i.e. to meet each other, have parties, drink, dance, go outside, etc). So, the point is that people have different reasons for celebrating Christmas and the same goes for saying "Merry Christmas," I suppose.
However, I disagree that saying "Merry Christmas" is THAT bad as the guy in the video argues.
And saying that not worse than killing a person. I would be okay with saying "Merry Christmas" to a Christian or anyone else that celebrates it.
RE: Saying "Merry Christmas" is worse than killing someone.
December 19, 2011 at 5:39 am (This post was last modified: December 19, 2011 at 5:39 am by KichigaiNeko.)
(December 19, 2011 at 5:26 am)Rayaan Wrote: Merry Christmas to you, too, Cinjin.
I don't celebrate Christmas, because I'm a Muslim, but I understand what you mean by saying that and that's why don't have a problem with it.
I just wouldn't say "Merry Christmas" to a Muslim because they don't celebrate it. I wouldn't say it to any random person either because I don't know whether or not they celebrate it and I don't know what is their religion. To me, saying "Merry Christmas" does seem to have a religious connection behind it since I think that the holiday used to have pagan roots (although I'm not too sure about the exact history behind it). However, I wouldn't dislike it if anyone says "Merry Christmas" to me because they may have a different intention for saying it. Maybe they are not even religious, but only celebrate Christmas as a cultural thing. I, personally, view it more as a religious holiday than a cultural one. But that's just my opinion. For some people, maybe Christmas is a holiday which is both religious and cultural at the same time. Atheists, however, celebrate Christmas only as a cultural part of their lives (i.e. to meet each other, have parties, drink, dance, go outside, etc). So, the point is that people have different reasons for celebrating Christmas and the same goes for saying "Merry Christmas," I suppose.
However, I disagree that saying "Merry Christmas" is THAT bad as the guy in the video argues.
And saying that not worse than killing a person. I would be okay with saying "Merry Christmas" to a Christian or anyone else that celebrates it.