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Atheism is a religion
RE: Atheism is a religion
(February 1, 2012 at 6:16 pm)Hitchslap Wrote:
(February 1, 2012 at 4:59 pm)Undeceived Wrote:
Quote:Yes, about 99% of all species that ever existed are extinct, exactly what you have just said we would expect if evolution were true.

http://www.endangeredspeciesinternationa...view1.html
905 discovered extinct species
8,700,000 (8.7m) living species

Dare I ask where you learned math?

We may be finding more extinct species by the year, but we're finding more living species by the day.

Genkaus, why do you think scientists predict all human skin colors will be the same (a middle Mandarin tone) in a thousand years? Because we combine and lose information the more generations we mate. When a brown-haired man with one recessive red-hair gene crosses with a blond-haired woman with no recessive red-hair genes, chances are the child will not get red hair and the red-hair phenotype will die out in that line. Meanwhile, we don't see any babies with green hair or hair with fur consistency. New genes are only developed by mutations, period. Google it.


And extinct species extends to bacteria and other species that lived billions of years ago, Mr. Christian.


Quote:The vast majority of organisms that have ever lived have gone extinct. From the Wikipedia article on extinction:

Through evolution, new species arise through the process of speciation—where new varieties of organisms arise and thrive when they are able to find and exploit an ecological niche—and species become extinct when they are no longer able to survive in changing conditions or against superior competition. The relationship between animals and their ecological niches has been firmly established. A typical species becomes extinct within 10 million years of its first appearance, although some species, called living fossils, survive virtually unchanged for hundreds of millions of years. Most extinctions have occurred naturally, prior to Homo sapiens walking on Earth: it is estimated that 99.9% of all species that have ever existed are now extinct.

Where’s your evidence? We have uncovered no more than 1000 species we know to be extinct. That includes bacteria. Wikipedia is not fact. The disclaimer at the top should read “According to evolutionary theory…” This paragraph is no more proven than evolution. Who “estimated that 99.9% of all species have ever existed are now extinct”? Evolutionists, of course. That's like saying, "I need a 75% vote to win the election so therefore I got it." You can’t use a conclusion of evolution to support evolution or you're employing circular logic.
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RE: Atheism is a religion
"No more proven than evolution"...hehehe.
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RE: Atheism is a religion
Ken Ham has personally sent this goon a monograph on evilution.
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Any evidence that the universe is only 6000 years old Undeceived???

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Cats are excellent garden snake killers. I had piles of little brown copperhead copycats.

Speaking of, The Copperhead (a particularly aggressive NA Pit Viper) is a species of "Least concern" as per IUCN Red List of Threatened Species.....

I'd say that's an item of "greatest concern" for the residents of N.A. These people are very selective with their metrics. Anyone down for taking a stick to all the bushes?
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RE: Atheism is a religion
For someone who is "Convinced of Christ by science", Deceived sure spends a lot of time trying to convince us that science is false. Only the inconvenient bits of course.
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It's rather amusing being a new person to the forums at times. Topic: Atheism is a religion. "Okeedoke, let me go check that one out. Er, the topic is all about evolution apparently. Well, let me go read through and see how it got ther- oh hell no, 40+ pages. tl dr"
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I find the request for evidence amusing coming from someone who claims we haven't discovered more than a thousand extinct species without a single citation to back it up. Of course, I wouldn't cite Ken Hamm or whoever he got it either.

More than 1,000 species are known to have gone extinct in just the last 400 years: http://www.conbio.org/resources/Education/faq.cfm

Also:

http://www.lassp.cornell.edu/newmme/scie...ction.html

An interesting book, if you're into that kind of thing: https://www.kirkusreviews.com/book-revie...-bad-luck/

I know when 'Undeceived' says 'evidence' he means bodily show him millions of extinct species so he can count them himself, since he (despite his protests) despises scientists in the relevant fields and has been so misled by Creation Science that he thinks all scientists start with their conclusions and work backwards; but for any reader who is not woefully miseducated, enjoy.
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RE: Atheism is a religion
(February 2, 2012 at 9:26 pm)Undeceived Wrote: Where’s your evidence? We have uncovered no more than 1000 species we know to be extinct. That includes bacteria. Wikipedia is not fact. The disclaimer at the top should read “According to evolutionary theory…” This paragraph is no more proven than evolution. Who “estimated that 99.9% of all species have ever existed are now extinct”? Evolutionists, of course. That's like saying, "I need a 75% vote to win the election so therefore I got it." You can’t use a conclusion of evolution to support evolution or you're employing circular logic.

Classic.
A christian attempting to tell us that we use circular logic.

"Undecieved"... we've been presentng the evidence to you. There's plenty of it on the internet.
Here's a few:
Peer-Reviewed Evolutionary Biology Articles
Evolutionary Biology Resources (Saint Anselm College)
Department of Evolutionary Genetics of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology

If you had put half as much work into actually looking around or freaking looking at the evidence already provided to you on this thread, you wouldn't be asking for evidence. We've already handed it to you on a silver platter.

Your inability to ACCEPT or disprove the evidence nonwithstanding, but you have not only failed to disprove evolution is a thing but you have yet to provide a viable alternative that explains all the mountains of evidence in genetics and the fossil record for evolution.

Once you do that, you might be able to do something other than waste our time.
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RE: Atheism is a religion
(February 3, 2012 at 2:52 pm)RW_9 Wrote: It's rather amusing being a new person to the forums at times. Topic: Atheism is a religion. "Okeedoke, let me go check that one out. Er, the topic is all about evolution apparently. Well, let me go read through and see how it got ther- oh hell no, 40+ pages. tl dr"

Well apparently evolution is a religion, too. Or so I've seen claimed by many fundies.
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