Don't Shit in your own home, God says NO!

[Erinome]

Oh, I'm sure. Nothing more godly than stoning a back-talking teenager in the morning.

[reverendjeremiah]

Christ said, "love thy enemies,"

But thats stupid. If someone wants to kill me, I am NOT going to love them. Its almost like the people who wrote that book didnt know shit about love.

this does not mean in any way that we can not defend ourselves,

Wait..so I should love people as I put a bullet in their brain to defend myself? The people who made this Christ characetr didnt make him seem very wise. In fact its confusion. Words like this make me cringe from Christianity. Its blabber flap. Its nonsense.

we should however aid those who hate us, when they are in need.

So if I knock someone off a cliff for trying to kill my daughter, and he says "Help me or I will fall", i am supposed to pull him back up? Thats psycho talk. Im not going to aid those who hate me.

..and if what you say is true, then every single Christian who refuses to aid Atheists in America have gone against the words of Christ. Every where we atheists turn we receive hatred and blockade from Christians and not one single bit of help from them...

So I call your rule bullshit, as no Christian obviously lives their life by it. I DEFFINITELY am not going to live my life by it. To live my life by it, i would have to help you promote your brand of Christianity. Its fucking stupid to suggest such rules to life.

America does this better than any nation I know.

WTF?!?! Are you talking about the same America I live in? The same Christian public that openly proclaimed their christianity in the Republican party, and openly applauded the death of people without insurance...even screamed "YEAH...let him die".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hd1UbSPx-E

WTF dreamland America are you living in? I didnt hear the Christians on that video say we should help people. no. They most especially DID NOT suggest helping people they hated. They want to help themselves, and they are greedy bastards.

God expects use to use the brains he gave us to determine the old laws that do and do not apply, it should be done through discussion with others to see how they may or may not apply.

..and I have used my brains to realize the bible is old, useless, and quite often wrong...regardless of your God or not.

Paul under authority of Christ showed us that the Jewish food laws do not apply to Gentiles. So we are to use our brains to discern and not to abuse the laws of God.

There is no such thing as a legitimate authority. Authority is a fallacy.

[Godscreated]

God knows we are smart enough to know this commandment only applies to those who might live in a similar situation as the Israelites did at that time.

Glad to see a Christian willing to think outside the box. So many things that just didn't make sense for desert nomads two thousand years ago are beside the point now. The same should be true of women in charge, gay marriage, recreational sex with condoms and the day after pill for when the damn things just don't work right. God didn't give us billions of sperms over our life time just to use a precious few to help over populate the earth. God made sex fun and science helps make it safer.

Now I did not say that all the laws are to be discarded or rejected to fit into someones life style. Let's take premarital sex as an example. If all people had obeyed this law throughout history there would be no STD such as AID's, there are much worse STD than AID's. There would be many families today that would not be suffering the loss of loved ones. There also would not be anyone who would be suffering or dying of a STD. Oh by the way, the condoms you mentioned have failed to stop AID's, the virus is smaller than the pores in the material they are made of. There are many other laws we could go through but, I believe you can see what I'm saying.

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@ Rev.J, you are taking what I said and turning it around to suit your argument. The examples you gave seem to come from someone who is very confused about what is right and wrong, someone who does not care about others, you need to think before you respond.

[Norfolk And Chance]

Now I did not say that all the laws are to be discarded or rejected to fit into someones life style. Let's take premarital sex as an example. If all people had obeyed this law throughout history there would be no STD such as AID's, there are much worse STD than AID's. There would be many families today that would not be suffering the loss of loved ones. There also would not be anyone who would be suffering or dying of a STD. Oh by the way, the condoms you mentioned have failed to stop AID's, the virus is smaller than the pores in the material they are made of. There are many other laws we could go through but, I believe you can see what I'm saying.

What fucking rubbish, you rubbish talking fucker.

[kılıç_mehmet]

Deuteronomy 23:12-14
You shall also have a place outside the camp and go out there, and you shall have a spade among your tools, and it shall be when you sit down outside, you shall dig with it and shall turn to cover up your excrement. Since the LORD your God walks in the midst of your camp to deliver you and to defeat your enemies before you, therefore your camp must be holy; and He must not see anything indecent among you or He will turn away from you.

And this is supposed to be a joke, or serious?
I can't really tell the difference sometimes.

The bible is a fucking joke.

Really, man. Good thread.

[reverendjeremiah]

Now I did not say that all the laws are to be discarded or rejected to fit into someones life style.

You arent the ruler of my life. To hell with your rules. Live by them your own self and leave me out of them.

Let's take premarital sex as an example.

Oh fuck...here we go again...

If all people had obeyed this law throughout history there would be no STD such as AID's, there are much worse STD than AID's. There would be many families today that would not be suffering the loss of loved ones. There also would not be anyone who would be suffering or dying of a STD.

WTF are you talking about. Solomon from the bible had well over 1000 sexual partners, hundreds of wives, hundreds of concubines. The israelites were commanded to take women as war booty by god himself, and if they liked them, they could marry them, and if not, then they could kick them out of their house. Virgins were specifically held for prizes for the preists of Israel, which they did with as they would....you dont even know your own bible, much less have any common sense to tell people how to live their lives in the modern world.

Oh by the way, the condoms you mentioned have failed to stop AID's, the virus is smaller than the pores in the material they are made of. There are many other laws we could go through but, I believe you can see what I'm saying.

Lies like that have caused many people to be infected and die. The ignorance you spread has real life effects that cost people their lives GC. This isnt some kind of game. this is disease, and what you are saying is DEAD WRONG...and whats with Christians being STILL obsessed with AIDS today?

@ Rev.J, you are taking what I said and turning it around to suit your argument. The examples you gave seem to come from someone who is very confused about what is right and wrong, someone who does not care about others, you need to think before you respond.

..and you need to leave this forum and never come back. You are the laughing stock of this forum GC. Most members use you as a measuring stone on how nutty or stupid (or both) new christian members are who join this forum. Chipan is currently giving you a run for your money in batshittery and dumb fuck ignorance. Only time will tell if he succedes in taking your crown of "Squirel shit king of Atheist Forums" from you or not.

[Norfolk And Chance]

You are the laughing stock of this forum GC. Most members use you as a measuring stone on how nutty or stupid (or both) new christian members are who join this forum. Chipan is currently giving you a run for your money in batshittery and dumb fuck ignorance. Only time will tell if he succedes in taking your crown of "Squirel shit king of Atheist Forums" from you or not.

I nearly laughed but then realised it is true!

[reverendjeremiah]

You are the laughing stock of this forum GC. Most members use you as a measuring stone on how nutty or stupid (or both) new christian members are who join this forum. Chipan is currently giving you a run for your money in batshittery and dumb fuck ignorance. Only time will tell if he succedes in taking your crown of "Squirel shit king of Atheist Forums" from you or not.

I nearly laughed but then realised it is true!

...and then you laughed even louder.

...because its true.

[SleepingDemon]

Oh and AIDS was God's punishment for gay sex too right GC? The sheer stupidity of most of what people like you say is overwhelming. Do you know why Africa is the AIDS capitol of the world? It's because they don't have tv, they don't have gynecologists, they don't have health departments or counselors, they usually have the fucking dumbest missionaries on earth telling them that condoms are evil and don't protect against STD's.

But guess what, people are going to have sex, and because of morons like you, they die from diseases that could have been prevented if we sent 8th grade health teachers instead of stupidass missionaries.

[Minimalist]

Christ said, "love thy enemies," this does not mean in any way that we can not defend ourselves,

Hey, asshole, that's EXACTLY what your fucking godboy said....

38 “You have heard that it was said, ‘An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.’ 39 But I say to you, Do not resist the one who is evil. But if anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also.

For a guy who claims to follow this shit you seem awfully ignorant about it.

Apparently, you think you are more worthy than your god.