Whose view of the O T is authoritative? Jewry or Christianity?

[reverendjeremiah]

They were ignorant, library burning, temple despoiling thugs.

wow, you are really angry for misinformed ideas. you really think Christians held back science? this is a very commonly misinformed idea. you're right that the Romans did burn a lot of libraries but it's something called war. in war, a lot of historical doccuments were destroyed, not just by christians. many people may think that the christians were responsible for the dark ages. the church did not discourage science of any sort at the time. they required every student to study math and science in universities at the time. and also, the universities did not answer to the church and the church had no influence on it. and yes, there was a decline in sciences. but it was not because of christianity or christianity would have made it happen a lot sooner. the reasons were:
1. the collapse of the Western Roman Empire.
2. the extended pandemics of the Plague, which broke out regularly over Europe for a period of a hundred years during the sixth century.

the only example of christians ridiculing any scientific theory was the copernicus theory (which i agree was wrong of them). and this didn't really affect science other than the fact that for a little while longer people thought the earth was the center of the universe (and i know the sun isn't either).

So you see Min. Christians arent attacking biology class or evolution because Christians do not attack science. Neither are they attacking sexual education as well.

And Christians used the bible to teach that the Earth was round, and orbited around the sun....

Christians arent holding back stem cell and genetic research...its really the atheists doing that..and the pagans.

Christians arent blocking methods to combat global warming and stopping our world from being polluted...


....where have you been Min? Christianity is da bomb! Come on Min. everyone is an atheist. be a Rebel and accept Christ into your life.

[Greatest I am]

Creationism; what a helping hand...

you're dodging the subject by trying to change it. christians did not hold back science. since i asked you a question before and you did not answer it i assume you don't have an answer to it.

Was Christianity trying to help science when they tried to get I D into schools by fabricating so called evidence, miss-representing evidence and lying in court?

Regards
DL

[reverendjeremiah]

Creationism; what a helping hand...

you're dodging the subject by trying to change it. christians did not hold back science. since i asked you a question before and you did not answer it i assume you don't have an answer to it.

Was Christianity trying to help science when they tried to get I D into schools by fabricating so called evidence, miss-representing evidence and lying in court?

Regards
DL

Of course they were. They werent lying. People who believe in jesus do not lie because it is one of the 10 comandments. Atheists lie because they dont have 10 comandments.

Didnt you know that the bible is a history, science, and life guide all rolled into one?

[houseofcantor]

no, christians always helped science.

Creationism; what a helping hand...

Nice and slow now Chip... Always. See where you put that word in your statement? Which means, one time - and you are a liar.

And you are a liar. Galileo? Kepler? How about the complete and total repression of artistic expression for fifteen hundred fucking years because some prudes made it a crime to accurately represent reality in art? WTF art? Where the fuck you think we might be today, if we came up with fractal geometry in the second century? Speaking of geometry - witchcraft. You burn for that. Speculation on the nature infinity? Burn. Georg Cantor, guy in my avatar? Lost fucking everything - everything - because of the fucking church.

[Tobie]

Christianity has almost never helped science. The Catholic church at least was more preoccupied with inquisition and prosecuting brilliant minds for thinking outside the status quo. That is, when they found time between conning peasants out of money and spending it.

[Minimalist]

the only example of christians ridiculing any scientific theory was the copernicus theory (which i agree was wrong of them)

I think you have missed the point that no one gives a flying fuck what you agree with or not.

[KichigaiNeko]

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Xtians did hold back science ...please don't get me started on the witch hunts and Inquisition.

the Inquisition was not about science. that was purely religion vs relition and some politics involved.

The Plagues mostly affected xtian Europe as I understand it... their standards of hygiene were very low.

no it affected everyone in europe the same. they all had the same hygiene standards reguardless of religion.

Xtianity has always seen science as a threat to it's continuance..as if science can not only FIND this godhead but also supply it's phone/ mail/email addresses and so rendering the 'church' redundant.

no, christians always helped science. science was funded by the church in the day. the only time they treated a scientific theory blasphemy was already mentioned on my last post. if you have more examples feel free to share.

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Go read something other than your silly little book of lies or AIG chip...for one in your miserable life!

[Greatest I am]

Creationism; what a helping hand...

you're dodging the subject by trying to change it. christians did not hold back science. since i asked you a question before and you did not answer it i assume you don't have an answer to it.

Was Christianity trying to help science when they tried to get I D into schools by fabricating so called evidence, miss-representing evidence and lying in court?

Regards
DL

Of course they were. They werent lying. People who believe in jesus do not lie because it is one of the 10 comandments. Atheists lie because they dont have 10 comandments.

Didnt you know that the bible is a history, science, and life guide all rolled into one?

I forgot. Thanks for the reminder.

Pardon my absence for a time.
I have to go stone my unruly child as the bible tells me to do.
I have to follow my life guide bible.
If you happen to be a fornicator, send me your address by PM.
You do not want to know why.



Regards
DL

[chi pan]

And you are a liar. Galileo? Kepler?

i already mentioned the theories of copernicus being rejected by the church.

How about the complete and total repression of artistic expression for fifteen hundred fucking years because some prudes made it a crime to accurately represent reality in art?

what years were those? pretty sure art didn't stop for 1500 years. there was more and better art during the renaissance.

Speaking of geometry - witchcraft. You burn for that. Speculation on the nature infinity? Burn. Georg Cantor, guy in my avatar? Lost fucking everything - everything - because of the fucking church.

never heard of those. i'll look those up.

[Minimalist]

Hey, Chippy

Why don't you find out what Thomas Paine really thought of religion?

(BTW, you have a misspelling in your quote...I would say it is accidental but I think you are too much of a phony for that. )

What is it the New Testament teaches us? To believe that the Almighty committed debauchery with a woman engaged to be married; and the belief of this debauchery is called faith.
-- Thomas Paine, The Age of Reason

The Bible: a history of wickedness that has served to corrupt and brutalise mankind.
-- Thomas Paine, The Age of Reason

The Christian system of religion is an outrage on common sense.
-- Thomas Paine