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Official debate with local pastor.
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 (January 24, 2012 at 6:25 am)Godschild Wrote:(January 23, 2012 at 8:46 pm)Rhizomorph13 Wrote: I prayed for a starfish one time... Starfish regrow amputated limbs. I was implying that I had prayed for a starfish that had lost a limb and it had grown back. I was making a subtle joke.  (January 23, 2012 at 8:34 pm)Godschild Wrote: So, is this the open minded character you accuse Christians of not having. If a Christian had posted this about meeting an atheist all the atheist here would be all over the poster. Really? So you expect an atheist forum to be FOR the Christians and against the atheists? If you dont like it, then leave the atheist forum and join a christian one.  (January 23, 2012 at 8:34 pm)Godschild Wrote: So, is this the open minded character you accuse Christians of not having. If a Christian had posted this about meeting an atheist all the atheist here would be all over the poster. How open minded is the Christian pastor whose goal is conversion of the OP? It's not likely he's going to listen to atheist arguments with an open mind, as I'm sure since he's a pastor he's already got his mind made up. And yes, this is an atheist site where an atheist asked other atheists for guidance in debating with a Christian pastor who is trying to convert him. Don't try to make this some big conspiracy.
Christian apologetics is the art of rolling a dog turd in sugar and selling it as a donut.
(January 24, 2012 at 11:59 am)Doubting Thomas Wrote: And yes, this is an atheist site where an atheist asked other atheists for guidance in debating with a Christian pastor who is trying to convert him. Don't try to make this some big conspiracy. But didnt you know that all of us atheists secretly believe that God really exists and his son is Christ Jesus who died and three days later rose again? Dont even hint at our conspiracy for GC might one day destroy our atheistic lies with on final Jesus blessed strike. My knees shiver everytime I read GC's post, because I know he is telling the truth. 
 Quote:So, is this the open minded character you accuse Christians of not having. If a Christian had posted this about meeting an atheist all the atheist here would be all over the poster. umm sorry gc but I should point out that he is trying to save me through logic and reason. He is only doing it because I have some influence over quite a few members of his church. I suppose he figure's he should confront and convert me before I do any damage to his church or further damage.
Live every day as if already dead, that way you're not disappointed when you are.
 (January 24, 2012 at 6:25 am)Godschild Wrote:(January 23, 2012 at 8:46 pm)Rhizomorph13 Wrote: I prayed for a starfish one time... The fact that you don't like my answer means it is spot on, G-C. You are so predictable.  (January 24, 2012 at 4:37 pm)Minimalist Wrote:(January 24, 2012 at 6:25 am)Godschild Wrote:(January 23, 2012 at 8:46 pm)Rhizomorph13 Wrote: I prayed for a starfish one time... What answer.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
RE: Official debate with local pastor.
January 25, 2012 at 12:33 pm
(This post was last modified: January 25, 2012 at 1:51 pm by Doubting Thomas.)
Actually, if a Christian did make a post about meeting an atheist, I wouldn't jump all over him, but I'd offer this advice:
Please don't try the shifting of the burden of proof tactic. This is what Christians constantly try to do but it never works. Does "You have no proof God doesn't exist" sound familiar? You're the one believing in a god, the onus is on you to prove it. "Proof" doesn't mean "what I believe to be true." When atheists ask for proof, they mean hard, factual, incontrovertible evidence. For example, show a picture of God. Or bring God along to the meeting and have him talk to the atheist himself. Warm fuzzy feelings you get from thinking about God or Jesus are not evidence. The bible is not proof of anything. You can rely on it to argue points of what you believe, but remember that's just what you believe. Realize that there's no evidence that God wrote the bible, and claiming that the bible is true because God wrote it is just a circular argument. Atheists tend to believe that the bible was written by bronze-age, superstitious desert goat herders who had a very rudimentary understanding of the universe, and tended to write this erroneous understanding down as fact. Think about why you don't accept the Koran or Book of Mormon as total truth of those religions, and you'll understand why we don't accept everything in the bible as fact. Please don't bother with Pascal's Wager or threats of Hell. We don't believe in such a place, and we wouldn't worship any deity which threatens to send us there anyway. The idea of Hell may have worked a thousand years ago when people were far more superstitious and stupid, but nowadays its only purpose is to try to keep the people who believe in it from wandering from their religion.
Christian apologetics is the art of rolling a dog turd in sugar and selling it as a donut.
RE: Official debate with local pastor.
January 25, 2012 at 12:52 pm
(This post was last modified: January 25, 2012 at 12:58 pm by reverendjeremiah.)
Yeah...what Doubting Thomas said...
....like Conservapedia says in its "Burdon of Proof" article. http://www.conservapedia.com/Special:Sea...roof&go=Go Wait, it doesnt have a "burdon of proof" article. Quote:What answer. This answer. Quote:How "open-minded" are you to the idea that your god is a load of shit? Clowns like you are so one-dimensional. You demand open-mindedness when it comes to considering the existence of your sky-daddy but draw the line at considering its non-existence. There is a term for people like you. "Full of shit." |
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