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RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil
February 21, 2012 at 7:47 am
Quote:4. Is Christianity hateful? Well I must admit that Christianity has been used to promote violence. But so has athiesm. Example: hitler. As much as you disagree with him, he claimed to be athiest and often quoted Darwin and wanted to kill what he saw to be the minor race. It's not fair to pass judgment on Christianity because of radicals just the same with hitler and athiesm.
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RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil
February 21, 2012 at 7:11 pm
Quote:But so has athiesm.
Mmm,false analogy. Christianity is a belief system with a formal code of ethics.Atheism is not.
Atheism is a disbelief in god(s), period. NOTHING else is inferred or maybe implied.
Godwin's law doesn't cut it.
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RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil
February 21, 2012 at 7:45 pm
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(February 21, 2012 at 7:11 pm)padraic Wrote: Quote:But so has athiesm.
Mmm,false analogy. Christianity is a belief system with a formal code of ethics.Atheism is not.
Atheism is a disbelief in god(s), period. NOTHING else is inferred or maybe implied.
Godwin's law doesn't cut it.
Theories of natural selection and evolution follow athiesm. The only atheists that don't believe these theories are those that don't care about origins.
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RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil
February 21, 2012 at 9:54 pm
Christian - A moron who believes that an all-benevolent God can simultaneously be a hateful jealous male-chauvinistic pig.
Wiccan - The epitome of cerebral evolution having mastered the magical powers of the universe and is in eternal harmony with the mind of God.
Atheist - An ill-defined term that means something different to everyone who uses it.
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RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil
February 21, 2012 at 11:20 pm
What do you need forgiveness for? For the sin you have commited. Everyone has to pray for forgiveness of sin to be forgiven. Whether you've lied, cheated, stolen, or whatever. In fact, Jesus was the first to impose "don't even think about it" morality. He said "you have been told though shalt not kiss but I say unto you if you hate your brother, you have already commited murder.
Christianity a cult? Look up the definition. It's a perversion of a major religion. Christianity is a major religion so it can't be a cult. Some cults of christianity would include Mormons and such. I don't think you thinking these beliefs are ignorant results in rejection of God. I believe you rejecting God results in thinking the beliefs are ignorant.
My metaphor of a child throwing a tantrum is entirely relevant to the issue. To God, you are ignorant as a child. He still demands respect like a child does.
I know it's hard to understand that forgiveness is free. Many Christians struggle with that concept but this is how he shows the love you claim he lacks.
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RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil
February 22, 2012 at 4:16 am
:ROFLOL: I think you meant though shall not kill... funny misqoute of the day. Also you probably meant "He still demands respect like a parent does"
I will say I agree with abracadarbra on the point of hatred and violence is not a sound method of teaching/explaining to anyone anything.
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RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil
February 22, 2012 at 4:32 am
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(February 22, 2012 at 4:16 am)tackattack Wrote: :ROFLOL: I think you meant though shall not kill... funny misqoute of the day. Also you probably meant "He still demands respect like a parent does"
I will say I agree with abracadarbra on the point of hatred and violence is not a sound method of teaching/explaining to anyone anything.
Lol stupid auto correct. Yes I meant kill.And parents.
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And this be our motto: "In God is our trust."
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RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil
February 22, 2012 at 4:52 am
(February 21, 2012 at 7:45 pm)chipan Wrote: Theories of natural selection and evolution follow athiesm.
Nope. Atheism is ONLY one who lacks belief in god. One without belief in god. That is it. Atheism has got nothing to do with evolution or anything else.
Theos or θεϊστής is one with god. One who believes in a god or gods.
Atheos or αθεϊστής is one without god. One who lacks belief in god or gods.
Funny really. So simple and easy to understand and yet....so many misconceptions. Why?
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Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
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RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil
February 22, 2012 at 8:17 am
(February 22, 2012 at 4:52 am)Ace Otana Wrote: (February 21, 2012 at 7:45 pm)chipan Wrote: Theories of natural selection and evolution follow athiesm.
Nope. Atheism is ONLY one who lacks belief in god. One without belief in god. That is it. Atheism has got nothing to do with evolution or anything else.
Theos or θεϊστής is one with god. One who believes in a god or gods.
Atheos or αθεϊστής is one without god. One who lacks belief in god or gods.
Funny really. So simple and easy to understand and yet....so many misconceptions. Why?
You put it out of context to misrepresent me. If you would have read the very next sentence it would say any athiest has to accept evolution to explain any type of origins (paraphrased). This is how it ties in.
Oh! thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved home and the war's desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the heav'n rescued land
Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation.
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: "In God is our trust."
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!
-4th verse of the american national anthem
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RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil
February 22, 2012 at 9:19 am
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Quote:Theories of natural selection and evolution follow evidence.
Fixed that for you. Atheists don't "have to believe" in anything to explain anything. Atheism does not offer an explanation, atheism does not require knowledge of our origins.
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