RE: Can Atheists Worship/love the Divine? Yes.
February 18, 2012 at 8:15 am
(This post was last modified: February 18, 2012 at 8:19 am by Welsh cake.)
I'm a glutton for punishment...
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Then there will come a time where we're not accountable to anything as we embrace the eternal void of oblivion.
(February 18, 2012 at 1:39 am)brotherlylove Wrote: How do you out imagine a maximally great being?Simple, I used my...
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Quote:It means there is a way of seeing that extends beyond what you now perceive.If you meant intuition (psychology) then why use such a meaningless term as "spiritual eyes"? Let's put your reliable deity-perceiving sense to the test shall we? We'll make this experiment straightforward, something trivial, after you can sense an infinite-creator-god out there so any challenge thereafter is moot. Okay then, what items do I currently have on my desk? Hmm?
Quote:What being would be worthy of worship?You obviously didn't understand the usage of term 'Catch-22' in context to worship.
Quote:There is plenty of evidence for design, such as the information in DNA.No.
Quote:God only sends unrepentant sinners to hell, so if you have been warned and you still refuse to turn from your sins, I don't see anything unfair about it.Except I've never met with or spoke to any God, so in all fairness, I haven't been warned for doing anything wrong.
Quote:He knows what is best for you because He created you and knows you better than you know yourself. Do you deny that such a being would know what is best for you?No god anywhere created me. I'm biological. My parents 'created' me, and half the time they don't know what's best for themselves.
Quote:Your flaw here is that you're contrasting God to human beings.You erroneously presume that I think humans are perfect and should be worshipped? When the fuck have I ever said that?
Quote:Worship isn't groveling yourself, it is a sincere proclamation of reverance and gratitude.No god anywhere has ever done anything for me that would make me revere or be grateful or express devotion undo them.
Quote:Consider this quote by CS Lewis:No. You present your own damn argument instead of ̶q̶̶u̶̶o̶̶t̶̶i̶̶n̶̶g̶ ripping long extract's from another man's work.
Quote:God doesn't need worshipCongratulations on defeating your own argument.
Quote:I think the Creator of this Universe is definitely worthy of worship.You think a creator-god who doesn't need you is worthy of your time? You are a pitiful blind sheep, no different than legions of stalkers desperately wanting attention from rich and famous celebrities and have no life of your own.
Quote:If He didn't give us the choice we would be robots.Takes all the fun out of sending us to Hell doesn't us?
Quote:I know what it means, and that doesn't apply to me. I came to Christianity independently.I don't believe you.
Quote:I "subscribe" to Christianity because I believe it is true.I don't care.
Quote:It is real because He gave us a spirit, which makes us as real as He is, since God is a Spirit.Fine, move the goalposts. Provide a clear positive ontology for spirits.
Quote:A God who came to Earth as a man could die.Vampires drink blood, fairies can fly, and Gods can't die.
Quote:Death is inevitable, but not final.Sorry, death is always final. Verily, it is a fact of life is that it must end. Everyone without exception will die and be forgotten.
Quote:It's the childs fault if he doesn't listen to his parents.What does this have to do with the painter and painting analogy? Apart from nothing whatsoever, that is.
Quote:It's all about GodNope. We are real and accountable to each other.
Then there will come a time where we're not accountable to anything as we embrace the eternal void of oblivion.