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| I am an atheist and would not get married. | 10 | 37.04% | |
| I am an atheist and would only get married in a civil ceremony. | 10 | 37.04% | |
| I am an atheist but would get married in a church or other form of religious ceremony. | 2 | 7.41% | |
| I am an atheist and married - I was married in a civil ceremony | 2 | 7.41% | |
| I am an atheist and married - I was married in a church. | 2 | 7.41% | |
| I am a theist and would not get married | 0 | 0% | |
| I am a theist and would only get married in a church. | 0 | 0% | |
| I am a theist and would undergo any type of marriage ceremony. | 0 | 0% | |
| I am a theist and was married in a church/place of worship | 1 | 3.70% | |
| I am a theist and I got married in some place outside of a church/place of worship | 0 | 0% | |
| Total | 27 vote(s) | 100% | |
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My parents had their 40th anniversary last weekend. I guess they are believers, though they don't do anything religious.
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Leo van Miert Horsepower is how hard you hit the wall --Torque is how far you take the wall with you 
Good poll Sam btw.
"We need not suppose more things to exist than are absolutely neccesary." William of Occam
"Our doubts are traitors, and make us lose the good we oft might win by fearing to attempt" William Shakespeare (Measure for Measure: Act 1, Scene 4)  
 
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Iwas a believing Christian when I got married in a church, so I wasn't being hypocritical then. I don't think the ceremony is important at all. It's a commitment between two people, the rest is just faff.
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May 13, 2009 at 4:25 am
(This post was last modified: May 13, 2009 at 4:26 am by Giff.)
Why do people celebrate anniversaries by theb way? I mean is that really nessessary? Is it some sort of milestone that a couple have managed to endure x-years of marriage?
- Science is not trying to create an answer like religion, it tries to find an answer.
There is nothing wrong with celebrating that they have been living together for a x number of years. That is like saying "Why celebrate that you have traveled 39 times around the sun today", why not?
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Leo van Miert Horsepower is how hard you hit the wall --Torque is how far you take the wall with you
Good point, but afterwhile would feel quite pointless. Like birthdays, the older you get the less intresting is it to celebrate.
- Science is not trying to create an answer like religion, it tries to find an answer.
I find anniversaries (of being together) relatively valuable and just nice
 I like anniversaries of most thing nice. A reminder of a good day or a first time spent with a good person (or having a good time, or both).Marriages on the other thing I think are superficial and makes love feel like a contract and less spontaneous and free. I think if love is truly genuine, natural and free it will be spontaneously and people will stay together naturally. I think 'commitment' is overrated. If the love really is strong enough a couple will stay together long enough naturally (because they love each other so much). The commitment could even be seen as a sign of weakness to me (possibly but NOT necessarily) because it's like the couple are trying to 'make themselves' stick together like they're not confident that that will just happen anyway (because they love each other). I think a stable relationship without having to have a "I promise I promise I promise I promise. I commit" shows a sign of genuine true natural spontaneous love. If a relationship is strong enough to stay without a 'commitment' (which I have said kind of makes it sound like a contract of some kind to me, perhaps less genuine and more superfical) then I think it must be a genuinely strong relationship. And if the 'commitment' is really needed to stay together, then is it really the love or is it simply the 'commitment' that is making the couple stay? The 'commitment' seems like it just 'isn't worthy' to me when it comes to the genuine article: Love. Besides, it's not like the commitment can't be broken anyway! People not only break their commitments but they get divorced. And I don't see why you'd want to make a 'commitment' like 'marriage' that makes it harder to escape the relationship when IF the relationship is no longer going well wouldn't you WANT it to end? - I mean if it has the possibility of ending anyway wouldn't it also be better to make it less hard for yourself by not having to get married so you'd have to 'divorce'? And the thing is sometimes I think people kid themselves and think if they are married that they will NEVER divorce. SOME couples stay married for a lifetime...but some people seriously love each other and have a loving marriage but STILL get divorced. And I also find the fact that you can walk out at any point to NOT be an uncomfortable or unstable feeling. For me it's quite the opposite because... ..I think the fact that two people choose to stay together despite the fact they could walk out so easily - the fact they can stay together genuinely and lovingly without (to me) a 'contract-like' 'commitment' or 'promise' such as 'marriage' - which I feel is simply unworthy of genuine Lov - I find the fact that people can stay together WITHOUT all that to be a mark of true genuine spontaneous love. And yep; I think the fact that people could leave at any point and it's more open, and yet they still stay together because they love each other so genuinely and spontaneously - just shows how strong the love is. Since if people are staying together simply because they are tied down by a 'commitment' and/or 'promise' such as 'marriage' then the love is not necessarily as strong I think... Of course this is just my own personal view and opinion. It IS what I believe though. And I know people can have a happy loving relationship whether they are married or not. This just what I feel on the matter. EvF  (May 12, 2009 at 2:07 pm)Sam Wrote: Congratulations Kyu ... 25 years! Tanks Sam Kyu Angry Atheism
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May 13, 2009 at 5:17 pm
(This post was last modified: May 13, 2009 at 5:18 pm by fr0d0.)
I was waiting for Kyu to step in here but I guess I'll just have to chip in...
Commitment is very important. Love is more than the fleeting feeling and rush of a new relationship. That rush is the natural attraction that draws people together. IMO you're not meant to crave that rush forever. It serves it's purpose in that initial phase. I appreciate where you're coming from though Evie. I used to struggle with the same questions and reasoning. Are we like Whales and built to have one life partner, or polygamous like those lucky Mormons. Then you start thinking like it's natural for blokes because blokes produce sperm till late in life. I've grown to hate anti commitment. It's incredibly selfish I think. It's also a blokes dream, and abusive to women, even if women aren't unanimous in condemnation of it, I personally hold that it's a blokes dream to be a kid forever and have no commitment. The natural process of mating: the strong desires, the total absorption of another person. Leads to the purpose: reproduction. The anti commitment bollocks breaks all that and goes anti evolution IMO. People think broken families is fine for kids, when the evidence shows the opposite. I'm not advocating religion, just natural law. Anti commitment may be another evil perpetrated by religion. Oh and congratulations Kyu! (Y) 
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