Quote:Or corrections from those more versed in science than myself?
No corrections....just the observation that you may as well try explaining radar to your dog.
In fact, the dog probably has a better chance of comprehending than the jesus freak.
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 No corrections....just the observation that you may as well try explaining radar to your dog. In fact, the dog probably has a better chance of comprehending than the jesus freak. RE: Bible contradictions?
March 14, 2012 at 10:27 pm
(This post was last modified: March 14, 2012 at 10:28 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
A minor nitpick, while evolution is not inherently atheistic, we do not see any god in the process. "For all we know" wouldn't really apply. For all we know, there is no tinkering hand, nor is one required. What we may not know would have to be invoked.
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We all know evolution is not just atheistic. But, atheists must accept evolution to explain origin of all verities of organisms. There is no other explanation atheists can accept period.
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March 14, 2012 at 11:11 pm
(This post was last modified: March 14, 2012 at 11:11 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
We don't have to accept anything. There is no must. All the "have to"s would be on your side of the bench amigo. I'd accept any explanation which offered more demonstrable evidence. Care to take a crack at it?
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(March 14, 2012 at 11:11 pm)Rhythm Wrote: We don't have to accept anything. There is no must. All the "have to"s would be on your side of the bench amigo. I'd accept any explanation which offered more demonstrable evidence. Care to take a crack at it? Well I would bring evidence of an organism being formed in a primordial soup but there's no evidence of that. I would say single cell organisms developed into multicell organisms but there's no evidence of that. Well, because you only accept evidence, I guess we have to say we don't know how this happened scientifically. No scientific evidence exists for the origin of life.
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Between their loved home and the war's desolation! Blest with victory and peace, may the heav'n rescued land Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation. Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just, And this be our motto: "In God is our trust." And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave! -4th verse of the american national anthem Quote:But, atheists must accept evolution to explain origin of all verities of organisms. Horseshit. The evidence for evolution is overwhelming. Unlike your fucking fairy tales which have no evidence for them at all.  (March 14, 2012 at 11:00 pm)chipan Wrote: @DeistPaladin What alternative would you offer? As I've said, we know life isn't static. We know life does change over time. Ergo, evolution.
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March 15, 2012 at 12:54 am
(This post was last modified: March 15, 2012 at 12:56 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(March 14, 2012 at 11:26 pm)chipan Wrote: Well I would bring evidence of an organism being formed in a primordial soup but there's no evidence of that. I would say single cell organisms developed into multicell organisms but there's no evidence of that. Well, because you only accept evidence, I guess we have to say we don't know how this happened scientifically. No scientific evidence exists for the origin of life. I thought we were talking about evolution, not abiogenesis? Can't help yourself can you? As far as how single cell organisms develope into multi cell organisms, familiarize yourself with the University of Arizona and their fantastic collection of green algae.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
Quote:I thought we were talking about evolution, not abiogenesis? Chippy does not understand the difference.  RE: Bible contradictions?
March 15, 2012 at 2:38 am
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(March 15, 2012 at 12:03 am)DeistPaladin Wrote:(March 14, 2012 at 11:00 pm)chipan Wrote: @DeistPaladin Only changes within a species, no changes from one species to another have ever shown up in the fossil records. The fossil records show only fully developed species, no transitional ones, and this is a troubling fact for many evolutionist, even though, they do not give up on evolution. So yes life is static as far as we know. (March 15, 2012 at 12:54 am)Rhythm Wrote:(March 14, 2012 at 11:26 pm)chipan Wrote: Well I would bring evidence of an organism being formed in a primordial soup but there's no evidence of that. I would say single cell organisms developed into multicell organisms but there's no evidence of that. Well, because you only accept evidence, I guess we have to say we don't know how this happened scientifically. No scientific evidence exists for the origin of life. There's green algae in the pond below my house, and I can tell you that stuff is static.
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