God's Most Appalling Act

[Reforged]

[quote='radorth' pid='274723' dateline='1334809740']
That said, I myself have trouble reconciling some parts of the OT with the new and what Jesus himself said.

You have trouble? Really?! You have trouble?!

... yeah yeah, I have trouble with murdering homosexuals for being gay. I have trouble murdering children for mocking a man for being bald. I have trouble with stoning your children. I have trouble owning and beating slaves. I have trouble with killing women and children of neighboring countries and keeping the young women as sex slaves. I have trouble with endless atrocities endorsed and commanded by god.

Yeah ... good thing a little trouble is easily overcome with contradictions, nonsense, and arguments of context.

From where I come from thats called a beatdown.

'Nough said.

[sarah888]

WHY ARE WE HERE WHAT IS OUR PURPOSE AND MEANING.>???

Better question...Why do you assume that we have a purpose in the first place?

So...you have no answer?

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[quote='sarah888']
WHY ARE WE HERE WHAT IS OUR PURPOSE AND MEANING.>???

Better question...Why do you assume that we have a purpose in the first place?

So...you have no answer?

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We are here to be tested and judged, to see if we merit eternal life or final damnation. why do I assume we have a purpose and meaning,
because everything has one.

The sun has a purpose , etc. etc.etc.
[b]Biblical History is no Theory, Science never will explain or figure it out, as they cant explain any phenomenon, along with medical science. No miracles, medical, etc. will ever be explained.
NDE will never be explained, and when they are explanied absurdly why do they all see the after-life, Near death experiences all see the same thing, Jew, Christian, Muslim. why doesnt anyone ever see the circus.?

Sarah

[genkaus]

We are here to be tested and judged, to see if we merit eternal life or final damnation. why do I assume we have a purpose and meaning,
because everything has one.
The sun has a purpose , etc. etc.etc.

Then you should hurry up and pass already. As in, pass on. Don't wait for us, don't risk any more sin - just go.

Biblical History is no Theory, Science never will explain or figure it out, as they cant explain any phenomenon, along with medical science. No miracles, medical, etc. will ever be explained.

Science has already figured it out.

You are right, biblical history is not a theory. It is fiction. And not a very good one at that.

NDE will never be explained, and when they are explanied absurdly why do they all see the after-life, Near death experiences all see the same thing, Jew, Christian, Muslim. why doesnt anyone ever see the circus.?

Science already has explained that. It doesn't matter what your religion is, your chemical structure of the brain is similar. Which is why the "visions" your brain shows you while shutting down are so similar.

[Cyberman]

We are here to be tested and judged, to see if we merit eternal life or final damnation. why do I assume we have a purpose and meaning,
because everything has one.

The sun has a purpose , etc. etc.etc.

Actually, nothing natural has a 'purpose' beyond sustaining its own existence, except whatever we choose to endow it with from our human perspective. The Sun's 'purpose' is to fuse protons so as to produce deuterium (heavy hydrogen) and thence helium-4. The fact that life on this planet literally revolves around this energy source is a consequence of emergent biology, totally independent of whatever the Sun might be imagined to think of the matter. Indeed, from the Sun's perspective, we humans and fellow Earth-dwellers are nothing but parasites feeding off the Sun's 'life' processes and giving nothing in return.

Biblical History is no Theory, Science never will explain or figure it out, as they cant explain any phenomenon, along with medical science. No miracles, medical, etc. will ever be explained.

You trust science every day of your life. Your computer is made possible by such scientific non-explanations as quantum mechanics, synthetic materials technology, symbolic logic, complex mathematics, etc. The internet connection on which you depend to castigate science so ironically uses digital lasers, optical glass or polymer fibres the thickness of human hair, and so on. This is all dependent on efficient, constant and reliable electricity generation and propogation.

Presumably you like to eat on occasion. Well, guess what? If not for chemistry, evolutionary biology, and so on giving us modern farming technology, pesticides, high-yield crops, meat and animal by-products extraction, and pasteurisation to reduce spoilage of all this food, I can pretty much guarantee you'd be dead in a month.

As for the medical science that you dismiss so readily, when was the last time you took an analgesic to relieve the effects of the demons causing your headache? Or needed dental work or perhaps more serious surgery? There are people in the world today - including my own mother - who otherwise would be dead, or never born, if not for the level of medical science we take for granted today, which even a century ago would be seen almost as magic.

I haven't even touched upon the immense body of science that goes into the mass production technology to make all of the above possible.

I'm too much of a gentleman to label you a selfish bitch for pissing in the fountain of science that gave you the ability to exist in a world in which you could do such a thing and laugh while you do so. I'll simply close by saying this: next time you consider taking so much as an antacid for an upset stomach, try praying instead. Otherwise you're being the hypocrite you present yourself as here.

NDE will never be explained, and when they are explanied absurdly why do they all see the after-life, Near death experiences all see the same thing, Jew, Christian, Muslim. why doesnt anyone ever see the circus.?

Oh, we see the circus alright. With you and your fellow clowns running around and tripping over your own feet, what else could it be?

[sarah888]

We are here to be tested and judged, to see if we merit eternal life or final damnation. why do I assume we have a purpose and meaning,
because everything has one.
The sun has a purpose , etc. etc.etc.[/quote]

Then you should hurry up and pass already. As in, pass on. Don't wait for us, don't risk any more sin - just go.

Biblical History is no Theory, Science never will explain or figure it out, as they cant explain any phenomenon, along with medical science. No miracles, medical, etc. will ever be explained.

Science has already figured it out.

You are right, biblical history is not a theory. It is fiction. And not a very good one at that.

NDE will never be explained, and when they are explanied absurdly why do they all see the after-life, Near death experiences all see the same thing, Jew, Christian, Muslim. why doesnt anyone ever see the circus.?

Science already has explained that. It doesn't matter what your religion is, your chemical structure of the brain is similar. Which is why the "visions" your brain shows you while shutting down are so similar.

[/b]Your last statement is totally incorrect, when the brain is shut off (DEAD) it will not be in a dream state, that is scientific, as they cannot explain NDE's and why these people all have the same visions
Lets say they are in a dream state, we all do not dream the same dream. think about it.

Sarah

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We are here to be tested and judged, to see if we merit eternal life or final damnation. why do I assume we have a purpose and meaning,
because everything has one.

The sun has a purpose , etc. etc.etc.

Actually, nothing natural has a 'purpose' beyond sustaining its own existence, except whatever we choose to endow it with from our human perspective. The Sun's 'purpose' is to fuse protons so as to produce deuterium (heavy hydrogen) and thence helium-4. The fact that life on this planet literally revolves around this energy source is a consequence of emergent biology, totally independent of whatever the Sun might be imagined to think of the matter. Indeed, from the Sun's perspective, we humans and fellow Earth-dwellers are nothing but parasites feeding off the Sun's 'life' processes and giving nothing in return.

Biblical History is no Theory, Science never will explain or figure it out, as they cant explain any phenomenon, along with medical science. No miracles, medical, etc. will ever be explained.

You trust science every day of your life. Your computer is made possible by such scientific non-explanations as quantum mechanics, synthetic materials technology, symbolic logic, complex mathematics, etc. The internet connection on which you depend to castigate science so ironically uses digital lasers, optical glass or polymer fibres the thickness of human hair, and so on. This is all dependent on efficient, constant and reliable electricity generation and propogation.



Presumably you like to eat on occasion. Well, guess what? If not for chemistry, evolutionary biology, and so on giving us modern farming technology, pesticides, high-yield crops, meat and animal by-products extraction, and pasteurisation to reduce spoilage of all this food, I can pretty much guarantee you'd be dead in a month.

As for the medical science that you dismiss so readily, when was the last time you took an analgesic to relieve the effects of the demons causing your headache? Or needed dental work or perhaps more serious surgery? There are people in the world today - including my own mother - who otherwise would be dead, or never born, if not for the level of medical science we take for granted today, which even a century ago would be seen almost as magic.

I haven't even touched upon the immense body of science that goes into the mass production technology to make all of the above possible.

I'm too much of a gentleman to label you a selfish bitch for pissing in the fountain of science that gave you the ability to exist in a world in which you could do such a thing and laugh while you do so. I'll simply close by saying this: next time you consider taking so much as an antacid for an upset stomach, try praying instead. Otherwise you're being the hypocrite you present yourself as here.



Oh, we see the circus alright. With you and your fellow clowns running around and tripping over your own feet, what else could it be?

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[b]Stimbo



[b]you seem angry, you cant correspond in a mature manner. You like a rigged game. Im not upset you do not understand nor comprehend, you muddle and you revert back to semantics to prove your point which is to refute and disregard any biblical hitstory.

Here is a message from Mr Darwin

message from mr. Darwin "In my most extreme fluctuations I have never been an Atheist in the sense of denying the existence of a God” – Letters of Charles Darwin [/b]

Sarah

[Faith No More]

We are here to be tested and judged, to see if we merit eternal life or final damnation. why do I assume we have a purpose and meaning,
because everything has one.

Well, don't just assert. Please, do list the purpose and meaning of everything if everything has one.

The sun has a purpose , etc. etc.etc.

Have you ever heard the story of the puddle that thinks the hole it's contained in was created just for it?

[sarah888]

Have a great weekend people, I shall continue this debate sometime next week

Peace

Sarah

[Faith No More]

Debate? Asserting things with no evidence is not a debate.

[Jackalope]

Have a great weekend people, I shall continue this debate sometime next week

Peace

Sarah

I am dissappoint. Now I'll have to.seek entertainment elsewhere.

[Cyberman]

As Arthur Dent might have said: "Ah - this must be some strange usage of the word 'debate' that I wasn't previously aware of."