Can God love?

[Greatest I am]

Oops.

Regards
DL

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According to the older pagan religions, I guess it seemed possible for their worshippers.
For me, however, God is a distant personality, an observer, a being that holds no human emotions. Even if it holds emotions that resembles ours, I'd rather have it that these are "godlike" emotions we have inherited from him.

Holds no human emotions but holds them?

Regards
DL

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I'm glad God doesn't listen to people like you. A sin not forgiven is eternal, once committed it is doesn't disappear unless God forgives it. An omniscient God never forgets unless He chooses to, and He has chosen to only through His Son.

A "sin" disappears once reparations have been made to the person it was committed against. I wouldn't even use the term "sin". It is a person who has done wrong in my eyes and in society's eyes, thus he has committed an offense against me. Once I forgive him, or her, then their "sin" might as well be forgotten, as nobody is hurt by it any longer. I don't need a god to forgive my sins for me, and his inability to forgive something that man already has just makes him a spiteful dick. And why through his "son"? Jesus was just a man quite like any other. Until you can furnish some legitimate, non-Christian account from the time that accounts for Jesus' resurrection, then I will continue to view him as such. In the words of Martin Luther, "Unless I am convinced by textual evidence and plain reasoning, I cannot and will not recant".

This will be my next O P. It speak to your theme.

Jesus forgiving sin is unjust to Victim.

Sin, by it’s very nature must have a victim. Without a victim, there is no sin.

The one sinned against has the first right of forgiveness.

If Jesus usurps that right then I think it would be unjust.

Closure is being denied the victim thus victimizing is twofold.

Jesus would not condone such a thing.

Secular law now demands a victim assessment report before sentence is given.

To think that Jesus would ignore this requirement is unthinkable.

This means that, “Why have you forsaken me? “, is answered by God with; because what you do is immoral. You deny the victim her or his rights. It is also unjust to punish the innocent instead of the guilty. In fact, that notion is insane.

In the scenario shown here the victim is ignored thus showing the flaw in the judge’s ruling, if he accepts substitutionary atonement or a sacrificial lamb.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqP_fjBkw...re=related

Regards
DL

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We are told that God loved his son so much that he planned to have him sacrificed even before the earth was created. This human sacrifice or any other human sacrifice, voluntary or not, is immoral and the notion that it is good to sacrifice an innocent victim to give the guilty believers a free ride into heaven is a completely self-gratifying notion and is completely immoral. One does not show love for someone by having them sacrificed for the sins of others when God himself stated that we are all responsible for our own salvation and cannot put that responsibility of the shoulders of a scapegoat Jesus.

God the Father's love for Jesus is different, though no less bountiful, than His love for us. Jesus is God and He is also His son. Together, they are part of the Trinity. God the Father does not force Jesus to die. Jesus' and His Father's will are one, so Jesus wishes to die for humankind. Jesus loves us so much, he died for us. He also loves His father and respects His wisdom. When you say "sacrifice is immoral" you are assuming that sacrifice is forced on another, rather than chosen by the individual being sacrificed.

Let's put this into an analogy. When a couple has a child, they must give up some of their time together for the child. The father loves his wife. But he also loves his baby. He tells the wife, "It's your turn to feed the baby." She does not like getting up in the middle of the night, but she does anyway. This is because she loves the baby too, and understands she must feed him/her. Is the father being unloving by putting his wife through this discomfort?

Does love need deeds and works to be expressed?

Yes, but showing love does not mean doing exactly what your beloved wishes--rather, what is best for them. A parent should not give a child limitless toys, but instead should teach them discipline and contentment. Do you agree?

On God’s love for Jesus.

Do you love your son?

If so, would you, like God did with Jesus, put a ransom on your son’s head?

If you were God and decided a divine being had to die, would you give man the stupid impression that fathers would not step up or that it is better for fathers to bury sons than for sons to bury their fathers?

How droll.

Regards
DL

[Greatest I am]

One does not show love for someone by having them sacrificed for the sins of others when God himself stated that we are all responsible for our own salvation and cannot put that responsibility of the shoulders of a scapegoat Jesus.

Please, show me where in scriptures you found this, I'm curious, I can't seem to find that teaching.

Good grief.
Where does it teach that we are to shed our responsibilities onto the shoulders of an innocent victim?

Answer my previous post to you and all will be revealed.



Regards
DL

[Minimalist]

When He forgives sin, He will forget that I ever committed them,

So your 'god' has memory problems, G-C.

Some fucking god you've got there.

[Godscreated]

Please, show me where in scriptures you found this, I'm curious, I can't seem to find that teaching.

Good grief.
Where does it teach that we are to shed our responsibilities onto the shoulders of an innocent victim?

Answer my previous post to you and all will be revealed.



Regards
DL

The entire NT teaches that Christ is the One who did take on all the sins of the world, when one accepts Him as their savior, his/her sins are forgiven. Are you really that dense?

For your next OP that you mentioned be very careful, very, very careful.

[Anomalocaris]

The entire book of Cinderella teaches Cinderella is very pretty and wholesome. And unlike the books of Jesus, the book of Cinderella doesn't teach that cinderella proved her wholesomeness by exhibiting some patently dillusional, maglomanical and psychotic behavior like your Jesus is said to have done.

So renounce Jesus and worship Cinderella, or else you will be consigned to serve the wicked stepmother forever.

[Greatest I am]

The entire NT teaches that Christ is the One who did take on all the sins of the world, when one accepts Him as their savior, his/her sins are forgiven. Are you really that dense?

For your next OP that you mentioned be very careful, very, very careful.

Why?

Because you will run from it the same way you ran from the simple questions you still have refused to answer?

Your being careful shows how little you have actually thought of your theology.

If you knew it, you would not be running away.

Regards
DL

[Godscreated]

The entire NT teaches that Christ is the One who did take on all the sins of the world, when one accepts Him as their savior, his/her sins are forgiven. Are you really that dense?

For your next OP that you mentioned be very careful, very, very careful.

Why?

Because you will run from it the same way you ran from the simple questions you still have refused to answer?

Your being careful shows how little you have actually thought of your theology.

If you knew it, you would not be running away.

Regards
DL

Run away from what, I've answered the questions that have some relevance.