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RE: Soul creation
June 6, 2012 at 7:28 pm
Godschild Wrote:All unbelievers are trying to usurp God, this is one of the most obvious things in all history.
It's impossible to usurp something you don't believe exists, so to you, it may appear this way. What matters though, are the intentions of the person you believe to be trying to usurp god, and if they don't believe in it, they cannot be trying to usurp it.
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RE: Soul creation
June 6, 2012 at 7:32 pm
From my perspective, all theists are trying to usurp common sense in order to keep a lock on the greatest set of lies ever told.
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RE: Soul creation
June 7, 2012 at 2:25 am
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(June 6, 2012 at 5:59 pm)Godschild Wrote: You know I did not mean one soul, if you did well.... what can I say.
Those who accept Christ as their savior are going to be in heaven, those who do not will be in hell, this is as simple as I can make it. Please DO make up your mind. If god created only once the soul on day 6, where are all the souls coming from?
(June 6, 2012 at 7:20 pm)Drich Wrote: I was simply saying what you were describing were attributes of the Spirit and not the Soul. So there's a soul and there's a spirit. If the spirit is bad, why does the soul ends in hell? It's the first time I'm hearing this spirit+soul fantasy. What will you guys invent next as imaginary prop?
I have no problem sharing a common ancestor with the apes; it's being related to some people that bothers me.
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RE: Soul creation
June 7, 2012 at 9:29 am
(June 7, 2012 at 2:25 am)Bravo Wrote: So there's a soul and there's a spirit. If the spirit is bad, why does the soul ends in hell? Because all 'spirits are bad' and because all spirits/souls have the possibility of atonement. If you allow yourself to be lead around by your spirit in this life rather than the soul God gave you then you will not have anything to connect to God with in the next.
Quote:It's the first time I'm hearing this spirit+soul fantasy. What will you guys invent next as imaginary prop?
The bible segregates the Spirit from the soul 9 different times. The OT accounts (when read in complete context) tends to better describe the relationship between the two. NT writers tend to assume you already know what the difference is.
http://www.biblegateway.com/keyword/?search=spirit soul&version1=50&searchtype=all
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RE: Soul creation
June 7, 2012 at 11:39 am
So, if this might be hell and the believers are going to go someplace else after the end, can we bump up their flights, because I want to see what it would be like without them, as I'm inclined to think it is only hell because they are always around talking about bullshit.
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RE: Soul creation
June 7, 2012 at 12:18 pm
(June 7, 2012 at 11:39 am)Epimethean Wrote: So, if this might be hell and the believers are going to go someplace else after the end, can we bump up their flights, because I want to see what it would be like without them, as I'm inclined to think it is only hell because they are always around talking about bullshit.
What your describing is known to Christians as the rapture.. Don't worry you may live to see that day.
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RE: Soul creation
June 7, 2012 at 12:26 pm
I thought you only believed in biblical Christianity? Now you're professing belief in the rapture?
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RE: Soul creation
June 7, 2012 at 12:32 pm
(June 7, 2012 at 12:26 pm)Faith No More Wrote: I thought you only believed in biblical Christianity? Now you're professing belief in the rapture? The bible seems to allow that as one interpretation so it is an area of legitimate debate among Christians. That doesn't undermine our fundamental trust in our Lord and Savior.
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RE: Soul creation
June 7, 2012 at 12:35 pm
Well, you think something as important as the rapture wouldn't even be up for discussion. Why is god being so vague about it?
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RE: Soul creation
June 7, 2012 at 1:50 pm
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(June 7, 2012 at 2:25 am)Bravo Wrote: (June 6, 2012 at 5:59 pm)Godschild Wrote: You know I did not mean one soul, if you did well.... what can I say.
Those who accept Christ as their savior are going to be in heaven, those who do not will be in hell, this is as simple as I can make it. Please DO make up your mind. If god created only once the soul on day 6, where are all the souls coming from?
Please go back and read my post I gave you the answer, I do not need to make up my mind, I gave you the info, it's you who have ignored it or can not understand.
(June 7, 2012 at 12:35 pm)Faith No More Wrote: Well, you think something as important as the rapture wouldn't even be up for discussion. Why is god being so vague about it?
God's not vague about the rapture, it's the human element that has brought about the debate.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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