RCC says making a woman a priest is as sinful as abusing a child.

[orogenicman]

*sarcasm on* I'm glad to see the RCC has it's priorities straight. *sarcasm off, now for a painful groan. Ugh!*

Quote: "Making a woman a priest is as sinful as abusing a child, the Roman Catholic Church declared yesterday.
New religious rules published by the Vatican set both sins at the same level of gravity and recommended the same punishment for guilty priests."

Also it sounds like the measures (mentioned in the article) they are taking to curb child abuse is equivalent to pissing on a fire. A lot of fancy words perhaps but no real substance. What do all of you think?


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...z1yoQ9DzTL


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...z1ym7ZNwR0

So they are taking it up the arse to save women the trouble? My what heros they are.

[Anomalocaris]

Is there any atrocity that these cocksuckers commit that you won't defend?

You are as fucking sick as they are.

They do it out of cunning self-interest to salvage whatever they could from their ill-judged and irretrievable investment in the brand equity of the criminal organization RCC. She does it because she is dumber than a post.

[Aiza]

Actually, I'd be satisfied if they outed the criminals and turned them over to the proper authorities for punishment. Instead, they covered up the abuse and shipped the scumbag to a new parish where he could have access to a fresh batch of children!

Individual bishops did this, the Vatican never did. The Vatican isn't in charge of parish assignments anyway, nor does this post have anything to to do with the article in the OP.

Are they turning priests who have sex with kids below the age of consent over to the police?

Yes.

This is sick, absolutely sick. Crimes should be weighted by the damage they do. The sexual abuse of a child causes horrible mind scarring (and some physical scarring) I've known many adults who were raped as a child.

....

Now let's weigh the negative consequences of being ministered by a female or having a female as (some sort of) overseer in the church......I hear crickets chirping....can anyone think of the emotional and physical scars that can come with this?

Wtf?

So what are you complaining about? Do you think pedophiles should be given a harsher punishment? Because legally speaking, the Church is already giving them the maximum possible. No one is denying that being raped is a scarring thing. Don't lecture me on that.

OR are you complaining about women's ordination having too harsh of a punishment? Do you think bishops who ordain women should be shown more leniency?

There are a lot of offenses which receive the maximum possible penalty in the Church. Its weird how you cherry pick these two and then proceed to complain on how "sick" it is, but you give no justification for the sickness other than "raping kids really hurts people" (naturally, which is why it receives the maximum penalty). The only thing left is that you are complaining that bishops who ordain women should get off easily, but of course Holy Orders is a Sacrament, and any abuse of it should be met again, with the harshest punishment.

[Thor]

Individual bishops did this, the Vatican never did. The Vatican isn't in charge of parish assignments anyway, nor does this post have anything to to do with the article in the OP.

Oh, like people at the Vatican didn't know any of this was going on? Responsibility starts at the top. The President is responsible for anything that goes on during his watch. Saying, "I didn't know" doesn't cut it.

[Aiza]

Oh, like people at the Vatican didn't know any of this was going on? Responsibility starts at the top. The President is responsible for anything that goes on during his watch. Saying, "I didn't know" doesn't cut it.

Really? The President is responsible for corruption of your local schoolboard director? Reaallly?

No he isn't. Needless to say the Catholic Church spreads worldwide and there are many more Catholics than Americans to boot.

[Thor]

Really? The President is responsible for corruption of your local schoolboard director? Reaallly?

Of course the President isn't responsible for corruption at a local school board. A local school board does not fall under the President's area of responsibility. Do I really have to explain that?

But a local parish DOES fall under the responsibility and authority of the Vatican. Do you see the difference?

[Epimethean]

"Individual bishops did this, the Vatican never did. The Vatican isn't in charge of parish assignments anyway, nor does this post have anything to to do with the article in the OP."

Typical cop out, and expected. William Lynn and Tarcisio Bertone seem to be receiving some rather negative attention for cover ups lately, and they work on a slightly bigger scale than a single parish. Face it: Your church is as scandal-ridden and corrupt as any organization in existence. From Holy Roman Emperors through the Medicis to the current day erstwhile Nazi, the RCC has been better at scandal than salvation for nearly a millennium.

[Ziploc Surprise]

This is sick, absolutely sick. Crimes should be weighted by the damage they do. The sexual abuse of a child causes horrible mind scarring (and some physical scarring) I've known many adults who were raped as a child.

....

Now let's weigh the negative consequences of being ministered by a female or having a female as (some sort of) overseer in the church......I hear crickets chirping....can anyone think of the emotional and physical scars that can come with this?

Wtf?

So what are you complaining about? Do you think pedophiles should be given a harsher punishment? Because legally speaking, the Church is already giving them the maximum possible. No one is denying that being raped is a scarring thing. Don't lecture me on that.

OR are you complaining about women's ordination having too harsh of a punishment? Do you think bishops who ordain women should be shown more leniency?

There are a lot of offenses which receive the maximum possible penalty in the Church. Its weird how you cherry pick these two and then proceed to complain on how "sick" it is, but you give no justification for the sickness other than "raping kids really hurts people" (naturally, which is why it receives the maximum penalty). The only thing left is that you are complaining that bishops who ordain women should get off easily, but of course Holy Orders is a Sacrament, and any abuse of it should be met again, with the harshest punishment.
[/quote]

I'm now wondering if you're a poe.

You said "Both sins receive the highest level of discipline, as they should." (BTW my jaw dropped when I read that).

I said " Crimes should be weighted by the damage they do." Then I contrasted the damage that child rape does vs. any damage a female in the ministry might do. The former is horrible and long lasting the latter does no damage whatsoever. There is no equating these two things. There is no reason to put these two things on the same level. One is a crime and the other isn't. If you look at in terms of how much damage these things do to a person it is sick and callous to equate them. At a time when the RCC is repeatedly getting in trouble for covering up child abuse the last thing they need for their public relations is yet another comment and/or action that suggests a flippant attitude. Yet they keep doing it.

I'll say it again it's sick to call something that does no damage a sin that is anywhere near the gravity of the sin of child abuse. The RCC have their heads in their asses.

As for your comments about cherry picking and giving no justification for the sickness blah, blah, blah, go back and read what I wrote; this time with a little better reading comprehension.

[Annik]

Sexism isn't anything new to Abrahamic religions.

[Epimethean]

Unfortunately, many women are stupid enough to defend it.