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RE: German court rules religious circumcision on boys an assault
July 3, 2012 at 10:01 am
(July 3, 2012 at 9:17 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Hmmph. Assault, made by a doctor?
Absolutely! If you tied me down and had a doctor perform a circumcision on me without my consent, I would say it's an assault.
And I think these photos clearly illustrate what can result from such an assault:
http://www.acwf.net/male-circumcision-procedure/
WARNING! Graphic images!
Science flies us to the moon and stars. Religion flies us into buildings.
God allowed 200,000 people to die in an earthquake. So what makes you think he cares about YOUR problems?
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RE: German court rules religious circumcision on boys an assault
July 3, 2012 at 11:06 am
(July 3, 2012 at 9:13 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: Skepsis Wrote:The courts ruled that circumcision amounted to unneeded bodily mutilation, calling it "assault".
As is female "circumcision" seems like equality is happening here. This type of "culture" is nothing but ingrained tradition based on superstition as far as I can understand it
Agreed, didn't mean to single out males as the only recipients.
Cutting babies body parts doesn't seem like the best way to praise any God. Unless it is, which can only mean that their imaginary friends have disgusting taste in their indulgences.
My conclusion is that there is no reason to believe any of the dogmas of traditional theology and, further, that there is no reason to wish that they were true.
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RE: German court rules religious circumcision on boys an assault
July 3, 2012 at 7:10 pm
(July 3, 2012 at 10:01 am)Thor Wrote: (July 3, 2012 at 9:17 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Hmmph. Assault, made by a doctor?
Absolutely! If you tied me down and had a doctor perform a circumcision on me without my consent, I would say it's an assault.
And I think these photos clearly illustrate what can result from such an assault:
http://www.acwf.net/male-circumcision-procedure/
WARNING! Graphic images!
I don't recall being "tied down" while being circumcised. Obviously you know nothing of it. Besides, it's not in our custom to circumcise a baby. We get circumcised around 6-7 years old.
These are only a few failed examples. If these were commonplace, our lineage should have ended a thousand years ago.
Quote:I doubt it will be overturned. In this day and age people tend to understand that a baby is a person with rights of their own. Fuck if their parents want to fiddle about with their genitals and/or remove body parts against their will. That's just tough.
As I said. The jews and westerners practice circumcision on an infant. Our customs state that circumcision should not be performed on a baby, but on an adolescent who knows what is about to happen. It will be overturned, for it serves nothing, really. Unless you happen to force other countries to adopt the same stance towards circumcision and parental rights, I guess you can very well scrap the idea.
But as I said, it's their country, their call. I'm sure after a few Jewish objections(and you know, Germans cannot refuse them, can they?), this will see an end.
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RE: German court rules religious circumcision on boys an assault
July 3, 2012 at 7:42 pm
The "culture" you trumpet there is a relic of iron age barbarism, Mehmet.
Glad the Germans aren't afraid of telling them off.
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RE: German court rules religious circumcision on boys an assault
July 4, 2012 at 4:06 am
(July 3, 2012 at 7:42 pm)Minimalist Wrote: The "culture" you trumpet there is a relic of iron age barbarism, Mehmet.
Glad the Germans aren't afraid of telling them off.
Barbarism schmarbarism. I don't think that the Germans are the ones to tell us about barbarism, and I certainly don't think that Germans do actually care. They certainly didn't until this point. Besides, it's a procedure that has healthy benefits aswell, as the christian west also seems to be circumcising their youth, although lacking the cultural and religious overtones that are prevalent in our country.
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RE: German court rules religious circumcision on boys an assault
July 4, 2012 at 5:18 am
(July 4, 2012 at 4:06 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: (July 3, 2012 at 7:42 pm)Minimalist Wrote: The "culture" you trumpet there is a relic of iron age barbarism, Mehmet.
Glad the Germans aren't afraid of telling them off.
Barbarism schmarbarism. I don't think that the Germans are the ones to tell us about barbarism, and I certainly don't think that Germans do actually care. They certainly didn't until this point. Besides, it's a procedure that has healthy benefits aswell, as the christian west also seems to be circumcising their youth, although lacking the cultural and religious overtones that are prevalent in our country.
There are no healthy benefits to circumcision if you don't have a medical condition that means you require it.
You are currently experiencing a lucky and very brief window of awareness, sandwiched in between two periods of timeless and utter nothingness. So why not make the most of it, and stop wasting your life away trying to convince other people that there is something else? The reality is obvious.
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RE: German court rules religious circumcision on boys an assault
July 4, 2012 at 10:00 am
(July 4, 2012 at 4:06 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: (July 3, 2012 at 7:42 pm)Minimalist Wrote: The "culture" you trumpet there is a relic of iron age barbarism, Mehmet.
Glad the Germans aren't afraid of telling them off.
Barbarism schmarbarism. I don't think that the Germans are the ones to tell us about barbarism, and I certainly don't think that Germans do actually care. They certainly didn't until this point. Besides, it's a procedure that has healthy benefits aswell, as the christian west also seems to be circumcising their youth, although lacking the cultural and religious overtones that are prevalent in our country. Don't play the nazi victim card it's getting old and invalid.
And he western Christians that do it due to health benefits do it because of misinformation and tradition(mostly Americans continuing what the military forced on them) of the past.
Religious rights of the Parents < Religious and Bodily rights of the Child
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RE: German court rules religious circumcision on boys an assault
July 4, 2012 at 7:48 pm
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Quote:Barbarism schmarbarism.
What an elegant and rational response.
Quote:I don't think that the Germans are the ones to tell us about barbarism,
Tu quoque/appeal to hypocrisy (look it up)
Quote:besides, it's a procedure that has healthy benefits as well
As far as I'm aware there are no medical or health benefits to justify circumcision as a broad practice. Of course, I may be wrong,and there may have been some recent research of which I am unaware,be thrilled if you would share it.
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RE: German court rules religious circumcision on boys an assault
July 4, 2012 at 8:15 pm
Quote:Barbarism schmarbarism.
Get off it, Mehmet. The only reason it is done is because some book of Iron Age horseshit says "god" wants it done.
Well if the fucker wanted it done....why did he put it there in the first place?
Methinks thou art full of shit.
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RE: German court rules religious circumcision on boys an assault
July 5, 2012 at 3:04 am
There are some very minor benefits to circumcision, but the cons outweigh the pros.
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